[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JP

It's highly unlikely there will be a vaccine. There are no vaccines for Ebola, HIV, etc which have a similar vector. If, and that's a big if, there is some type of vaccine, I would guess it would have the same efficacy as the flu's vaccine--about 40-50%. So...people will have to make a decision to shelter in place etc. or get on with their lives like we do with the flu that has a yearly death toll of 40-80,000. I vote to get on with my life with moderate precautions.

Thomas Jefferson WOULD wear a mask.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by nututv

Macho? haha Yeah, I'm 6', 170#. I'm a real beast of a guy. Reading your statement, I need to stay inside. If I do dare to open the door (because I'm all macho... and stuff) I need to wear a mask because if I don't, I'm going to get the flu and live on a ventilator. That's pretty much what you said correct?
There is one thing that scares me far more than dying and that is Not Living. If you want to live the rest of your life captive in your home afraid of what is outside have at it bud. I truly feel bad for you but I do like the decreased traffic when I go places so I guess I owe you a thanks.

If living were easy
then the rich would live
and the poor would die !

[Love2Swim]

Dr. Fauci is the expert and he says he believes a vaccine is a matter of “when and not if.” When we have the vaccine is when I feel safe socializing again. I don't feel safe now. There are too many selfish people running around without masks, putting everyone else at risk.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by nututv

Now that's funny but it was 42.
Phrases from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Wikipedia)

Thanks for all the fish....Dude.

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by nututv

Macho? haha Yeah, I'm 6', 170#. I'm a real beast of a guy. Reading your statement, I need to stay inside. If I do dare to open the door (because I'm all macho... and stuff) I need to wear a mask because if I don't, I'm going to get the flu and live on a ventilator. That's pretty much what you said correct?
There is one thing that scares me far more than dying and that is Not Living. If you want to live the rest of your life captive in your home afraid of what is outside have at it bud. I truly feel bad for you but I do like the decreased traffic when I go places so I guess I owe you a thanks.

Ah. Assumptions assumptions assumptions. I go shopping - Home Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart. I go to restaurants. I go to country club breezeways and drink and listen to music. Ride my motorcycle and bicycle. However I do take precautions - wear a mask and practice social distancing. I love it when a post is responded to not based on its content but based on the respondent’s need for hyperbole. So I’ll say it again. Those who don’t like masks will definitely not like ventilators. Personally I don’t like masks. They itch my nose and make me sweat. But if there’s any possibility to avoid the ventilator I’ll suffer the inconvenience. And quite frankly I don’t think I’m missing anything by wearing one. And those around me are definitely benefiting because they don’t get to see my ugly face or have to endure my bad breath.

[birdiebill]

Originally Posted by Carl99

I’m already socializing , got tested don’t have it

Your test showing you don't have the virus is only good for the time the test was taken. Anyone with a negative test is still subject to acquiring the virus anytime after that test was taken--whether its 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months later.

Likewise the temperature check being used frequently does not really test whether a person is positive. One can be asymptomatic and be positive with no fever at the time the temperature is taken. We used to use universal precautions to assume every patient was carrying a contagious disease, and use infection control guidelines accordingly.

My wife and I use "universal precautions" with Covid-19 and assume everyone is an asymptomatic carrier. Outdoors, we social distance. Indoors, we mask to protect others and minimize our risk. We will resume normal lifestyle once there is an effective vaccine. We are not living like hermits, but we do not socialize without social distancing.

[ts12755]

Been hanging out shoulder to shoulder with friends and neighbors since phase I.

[donfey]

Originally Posted by Fishers2tall

Obviously COVID-19 has caused drastic changes to our everyday life. My question is do you think you will ever go back to inviting people to your home for a meal without worrying about masks or social distancing? Will you ever feel comfortable sitting around your dinner table playing cards with friends? What will it take before you are willing to do that? I guess I am curious if a COVID vaccine takes 10 years to develop how many will spend that entire time living in a state of social isolation.

When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Dr. Fauci is the expert and he says he believes a vaccine is a matter of “when and not if.” When we have the vaccine is when I feel safe socializing again. I don't feel safe now. There are too many selfish people running around without masks, putting everyone else at risk.

Hope that's right about vaccine.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by birdiebill

Your test showing you don't have the virus is only good for the time the test was taken. Anyone with a negative test is still subject to acquiring the virus anytime after that test was taken--whether its 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months later.

Likewise the temperature check being used frequently does not really test whether a person is positive. One can be asymptomatic and be positive with no fever at the time the temperature is taken. We used to use universal precautions to assume every patient was carrying a contagious disease, and use infection control guidelines accordingly.

My wife and I use "universal precautions" with Covid-19 and assume everyone is an asymptomatic carrier. Outdoors, we social distance. Indoors, we mask to protect others and minimize our risk. We will resume normal lifestyle once there is an effective vaccine. We are not living like hermits, but we do not socialize without social distancing.

There you go again, trying to dispel the cloud of ignorance.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ts12755

Been hanging out shoulder to shoulder with friends and neighbors since phase I.

And phase 5 might find a few people in Heaven.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by donfey

When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.

Better tax laws could fix it. Laws as in 1950 when the US was #1 and NOT in CV.

[ColdNoMore]

Only wimps and those "touchy-feely" types, that actually think of others and not just themselves...wear masks.

In which case, if your own insecurity is that great, I consider it a badge of honor and am proud...to be called a "wimp."



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[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by donfey

When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.

Yep.

Oftentimes the poorest/most vulnerable, who provide services for those of us who can afford to hunker down, just also seem to be...the most "essential."

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Fishers2tall

Obviously COVID-19 has caused drastic changes to our everyday life. My question is do you think you will ever go back to inviting people to your home for a meal without worrying about masks or social distancing? Will you ever feel comfortable sitting around your dinner table playing cards with friends? What will it take before you are willing to do that? I guess I am curious if a COVID vaccine takes 10 years to develop how many will spend that entire time living in a state of social isolation.

A safe an effective vaccine, or the mutation of the disease into something more manageable. Maybe all the young beach bums are doing us a favor. As more and more of them catch, pass on, and catch again the Covid virus, perhaps it will mutate into a less harmful disease. Meanwhile, may the Lord bless them, and keep them, far away from me.