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birdiebill 06-25-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl99 (Post 1791751)
I’m already socializing , got tested don’t have it

Your test showing you don't have the virus is only good for the time the test was taken. Anyone with a negative test is still subject to acquiring the virus anytime after that test was taken--whether its 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months later.

Likewise the temperature check being used frequently does not really test whether a person is positive. One can be asymptomatic and be positive with no fever at the time the temperature is taken. We used to use universal precautions to assume every patient was carrying a contagious disease, and use infection control guidelines accordingly.

My wife and I use "universal precautions" with Covid-19 and assume everyone is an asymptomatic carrier. Outdoors, we social distance. Indoors, we mask to protect others and minimize our risk. We will resume normal lifestyle once there is an effective vaccine. We are not living like hermits, but we do not socialize without social distancing.

ts12755 06-25-2020 02:09 PM

Been hanging out shoulder to shoulder with friends and neighbors since phase I.

donfey 06-25-2020 02:18 PM

Yes.
 
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Originally Posted by Fishers2tall (Post 1791073)
Obviously COVID-19 has caused drastic changes to our everyday life. My question is do you think you will ever go back to inviting people to your home for a meal without worrying about masks or social distancing? Will you ever feel comfortable sitting around your dinner table playing cards with friends? What will it take before you are willing to do that? I guess I am curious if a COVID vaccine takes 10 years to develop how many will spend that entire time living in a state of social isolation.

When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1791858)
Dr. Fauci is the expert and he says he believes a vaccine is a matter of “when and not if.” When we have the vaccine is when I feel safe socializing again. I don't feel safe now. There are too many selfish people running around without masks, putting everyone else at risk.

Hope that's right about vaccine.

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1791884)
Your test showing you don't have the virus is only good for the time the test was taken. Anyone with a negative test is still subject to acquiring the virus anytime after that test was taken--whether its 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months later.

Likewise the temperature check being used frequently does not really test whether a person is positive. One can be asymptomatic and be positive with no fever at the time the temperature is taken. We used to use universal precautions to assume every patient was carrying a contagious disease, and use infection control guidelines accordingly.

My wife and I use "universal precautions" with Covid-19 and assume everyone is an asymptomatic carrier. Outdoors, we social distance. Indoors, we mask to protect others and minimize our risk. We will resume normal lifestyle once there is an effective vaccine. We are not living like hermits, but we do not socialize without social distancing.

There you go again, trying to dispel the cloud of ignorance.

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ts12755 (Post 1791894)
Been hanging out shoulder to shoulder with friends and neighbors since phase I.

And phase 5 might find a few people in Heaven.

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1791898)
When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.

Better tax laws could fix it. Laws as in 1950 when the US was #1 and NOT in CV.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 04:28 PM

Only wimps and those "touchy-feely" types, that actually think of others and not just themselves...wear masks. :oops:

In which case, if your own insecurity is that great, I consider it a badge of honor and am proud...to be called a "wimp."
:thumbup:



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ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1791898)
When it becomes "the norm" for folks, that's us, to be responsible about staying home when we're sick, or think we may be, and for the rest of us to call out those who violate this practice. Of particular concern to me is those who NEED to go to work, even though they know they're too sick to be out. There needs to be a way for them to stay home, responsibly, and still provide for themselves or their family. Not an easy fix.


Yep. :thumbup:

Oftentimes the poorest/most vulnerable, who provide services for those of us who can afford to hunker down, just also seem to be...the most "essential."
:ohdear:

nn0wheremann 06-25-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishers2tall (Post 1791073)
Obviously COVID-19 has caused drastic changes to our everyday life. My question is do you think you will ever go back to inviting people to your home for a meal without worrying about masks or social distancing? Will you ever feel comfortable sitting around your dinner table playing cards with friends? What will it take before you are willing to do that? I guess I am curious if a COVID vaccine takes 10 years to develop how many will spend that entire time living in a state of social isolation.

A safe an effective vaccine, or the mutation of the disease into something more manageable. Maybe all the young beach bums are doing us a favor. As more and more of them catch, pass on, and catch again the Covid virus, perhaps it will mutate into a less harmful disease. Meanwhile, may the Lord bless them, and keep them, far away from me.

regas56 06-25-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1791848)
5% Nationally. We are #1 in the world.....dubious achievement award.

I'm not sure where you found that number but according to the CDC numbers I googled the fatality rate for those under 50 is 0.2%.. 50-59 is 0.6%.. 60-69 is 1.9%.. 70-79 is 4.3%.. and over 80 is 7.8%.. How many people haven't been tested that are asymptomatic? 100's 0f 1000's? Millions? the fatality percentages can only go DOWN once every person in the Country has been tested..

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 1791979)
A safe an effective vaccine, or the mutation of the disease into something more manageable. Maybe all the young beach bums are doing us a favor. As more and more of them catch, pass on, and catch again the Covid virus, perhaps it will mutate into a less harmful disease. Meanwhile, may the Lord bless them, and keep them, far away from me.

Problem is the "passing on" phase involves infecting the innocent and unsuspecting sometimes elderly who DIE!

jimjamuser 06-25-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by regas56 (Post 1791995)
I'm not sure where you found that number but according to the CDC numbers I googled the fatality rate for those under 50 is 0.2%.. 50-59 is 0.6%.. 60-69 is 1.9%.. 70-79 is 4.3%.. and over 80 is 7.8%.. How many people haven't been tested that are asymptomatic? 100's 0f 1000's? Millions? the fatality percentages can only go DOWN once every person in the Country has been tested..

Cases!!!! 5% of the US population has become cases in hospitals. More testing would yield a higher %.

John41 06-25-2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1791858)
Dr. Fauci is the expert and he says he believes a vaccine is a matter of “when and not if.” When we have the vaccine is when I feel safe socializing again. I don't feel safe now. There are too many selfish people running around without masks, putting everyone else at risk.

correct... two promising vaccines go to phase 3 trials in July with availability in September or October.
With some of the replies to this post it’s no wonder covid19 cases are on the rise. False bravado. Mask wearing needs to be mandatory.

Spikearoni 06-25-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1791485)
Some of these responses are very funny. Too bad the scientists that are busy telling you what to do have no clue and keep changing their minds using you like a yoyo. I am a reasonable person and refuse to lock myself in a closet for the rest of my life. If you choose to do so, do not assume you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

My husband and I are not "locking ourselves in a closet for the rest of our lives." However we have been conscientious about observing the CDC guidelines. We go outdoors when we do our 4 mile speed walk instead of going to the gym; we wear masks in the grocery store; and we stay away from indoor places that are not essential, such as bars and restaurants. Yes it has been difficult but we are hoping that a vaccine, as well as a drug that eases COVID-19 symptoms, will be available soon. In the meantime, thanks to ZOOM and technology, I have been able to participate in book club meetings, The Villages Duplicate Bridge games with friends, and Mah Jongg. We have even lost weight as a result of not eating and imbibing in restaurants to the extent that we did in the past!:)

Spikearoni 06-25-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1791742)
According to the latest Florida Department of Health data, Florida has had 109,014 positive cases of the Covid-19 virus. Yesterday alone there were 5511 new cases. Sumter County has had 299 positive cases with well over 100 of those in the correctional facility in Bushnell.

The virus has not become less contagious, but perhaps a little less virulent. We can modify our life and social behavior and minimize our risks by showing compassion for each other. We don't have to stay confined to home if everyone would do their part to minimize transmission. I ride my bicycle, I golf with friends but we socially distance at all times, we eat restaurant food at times but prefer to carry out. We are not comfortable eating inside a restaurant with a large number of diners nor in one where the staff does not wear a mask. We grocery shop and go to the pharmacy or a re



store when we need to, but do not just go shopping. We do wear a mask indoors at the grocery and pharmacy. That is not because we know we are carrying the virus; we could be asymptomatic and still be a carrier and transmit to others. We mask to protect others; we also know that even the cloth masks will reduce the chance of viral load by a little bit. We mask to protect others; we hope others mask to protect each other.

If everyone were as considerate as you two are, the pandemic would definitely be curtailed. Thank you for your thoughtfulness for the well-being of others.

coffeebean 06-26-2020 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest
A beautiful woman.

Good one to lighten up the mood.

regas56 06-26-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest
Cases!!!! 5% of the US population has become cases in hospitals. More testing would yield a higher %.

Ok so with a population of 330 Million that would be about 16.5 MILLION people.. CDC among a several others I checked say it's around 2.4 Million..with less than 1/4th being admitted to the hospital.. Big difference between 16 Million and 300,000..

OhioBuckeye 06-26-2020 10:55 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Like everyone in TV were retired & I'm in no hurry to get out & party or visit. I'll wait until they tell us it's OK & not before. I get out & walk around & I still talk to people from a distances. I don't think the younger people that are protesting really cares what happens because they're to busy with the BLM. It's fricking joke. Do what they're doing in Israeli & spray them with a fluid that stinks to holy crap, it'll break up the protesters & believe me it'll make them puke! Anyway be safe & it's to bad for the people that want to get back to work, I do feel bad for them. God Bless!

Rosebud1949 06-26-2020 12:21 PM

Grandkids are here... no masks, visitors are here No masks, Folk out and NOT social distancing, no masks. I dont suppose they stayed at home when they were told to either.. Going to the beach, eating out, shopping etc.. it will never stop until you change your attitude .. A MASK SAYS YOU CARE.. about your family, friends, and each other. No MASK.. says it all

OhioBuckeye 06-26-2020 01:13 PM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1792481)
Grandkids are here... no masks, visitors are here No masks, Folk out and NOT social distancing, no masks. I dont suppose they stayed at home when they were told to either.. Going to the beach, eating out, shopping etc.. it will never stop until you change your attitude .. A MASK SAYS YOU CARE.. about your family, friends, and each other. No MASK.. says it all

You said it all, I don’t need to add to it Rosebud1949!

coffeebean 06-26-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1791742)
According to the latest Florida Department of Health data, Florida has had 109,014 positive cases of the Covid-19 virus. Yesterday alone there were 5511 new cases. Sumter County has had 299 positive cases with well over 100 of those in the correctional facility in Bushnell.

The virus has not become less contagious, but perhaps a little less virulent. We can modify our life and social behavior and minimize our risks by showing compassion for each other. We don't have to stay confined to home if everyone would do their part to minimize transmission. I ride my bicycle, I golf with friends but we socially distance at all times, we eat restaurant food at times but prefer to carry out. We are not comfortable eating inside a restaurant with a large number of diners nor in one where the staff does not wear a mask. We grocery shop and go to the pharmacy or a retail store when we need to, but do not just go shopping. We do wear a mask indoors at the grocery and pharmacy. That is not because we know we are carrying the virus; we could be asymptomatic and still be a carrier and transmit to others. We mask to protect others; we also know that even the cloth masks will reduce the chance of viral load by a little bit. We mask to protect others; we hope others mask to protect each other.

I wear a mask to help this economy reboot. As it is now, openings are on hold in parts of the country that are seeing spikes in cases. This can happen in The Villages very quickly if we all don't do our part to contain this virus. I don't wear a mask outdoors but do socially distance. I wear a mask indoors when social distancing can not be guaranteed. Why can't we all do this to slow the spread of this virus. The quicker we get this virus under control, the quicker the economy can recover and we can all go back to the normal we had prior to 2020.

coffeebean 06-26-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl99 (Post 1791751)
I’m already socializing , got tested don’t have it

But...........you can still contract the virus anytime after that test was completed. Do you realize that?

Bay Kid 06-27-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1792123)
Good one to lighten up the mood.

Prefer a red head for a change.


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