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DAVES 05-25-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1950332)
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RACE AND A NATIONALITY.
Many people have a hard time distinguishing between the two.

A large part of the problem is language. We put people into groups. Then we are able to say they are good and the other is bad.

Where we are today.

Will it end? Truth it seems to be getting worse.

EileenRo 05-25-2021 07:33 AM

You have got to be kidding!

Gray lady of the sea 05-25-2021 07:44 AM

You are ABSOLUTELY right

kkeennyy 05-25-2021 07:49 AM

You wont see any Outrage by the whites unfor

rlcooper70 05-25-2021 07:49 AM

Fascinating. I was unaware. Thank you.

Chicago is a black city and yet Chicago's news reporters are almost all white. Why? The Mayor brings the conversation to the forefront. Thank you for showing us that the conversation is alive.

As to your comment that perhaps white people should get used to the idea that blacks are going to bring racism to the conversation over and over ... I guess you are right.

Tom2172 05-25-2021 08:01 AM

Journalists no longer exist so who cares
Propaganda is still worthless propaganda
Shooting in Chicago ignored because no propaganda Value for swamp creatures
Chicago has been a Democrat totalitarian city for 120 years they were forced to give up democracy. we are now forced to give up freedom of speech

BigHoss18 05-25-2021 08:13 AM

Great narrative, and I agree with it wholeheartedly. However, it violates the policy for this forum. Right at the top of my screen in upper case letters, yelling at us, it states NO POLITICS.

Who’s not doing their job to police this forum.

starbaby 05-25-2021 08:14 AM

Stop inciting national outrage. So much hate going on here. What do you care about Chicago? Are you from there? You're here now. Kick back, take a yoga class and learn to let it go.

lpkruege1 05-25-2021 08:22 AM

One on Ones?
 
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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1950024)
I don't believe she is exempting anyone from news briefings, just one-on-ones She is making the point that there are darn few reporters of color on the city hall beat. Therefore, she won't be getting many face to face interviews. Remember, our former president used to exclude certain media. It's a prerogative among the politically powerful.

Anytime you exclude a person BECAUSE of the color of their skin, is racist. You can ride the bus but those of you that are black have to sit at the back. You can go to the movies but you have to sit in your section. Only those of you that are white can use these bubblers. Really, how can anyone justify racism under any circumstance?

blampron 05-25-2021 08:33 AM

White people in North America live in a society that is deeply separate and unequal
 
“White people in North America live in a society that is deeply separate and unequal by race, and white people are the beneficiaries of that separation and inequality.” - White Fragility.
Your comment explicitly demonstrates how uncomfortable white people are when they are confronted with the fact that we live in a White supremacist society which explicitly benefits white people. When the roles are reversed, it results in the same outrage people of color have lived with for centuries. Instead of being outraged I would suggest that you step back and examine the cause of your outrage to better understand racism.

conman5652@aol.com 05-25-2021 08:48 AM

Ashamed to see fake news haters so upset on nothing and making a stink over nothing. If ur beloved leader can do it no matter what the reason then what’s good for the gander is good from the goose.

PugMom 05-25-2021 08:50 AM

no outrage here, it's exactly what one would expect of lightfoot

stevecmo 05-25-2021 08:52 AM

Promoting inclusion by exclusion is wrong.

Wake up America!!!

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-25-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blampron (Post 1950398)
“White people in North America live in a society that is deeply separate and unequal by race, and white people are the beneficiaries of that separation and inequality.” - White Fragility.
Your comment explicitly demonstrates how uncomfortable white people are when they are confronted with the fact that we live in a White supremacist society which explicitly benefits white people. When the roles are reversed, it results in the same outrage people of color have lived with for centuries. Instead of being outraged I would suggest that you step back and examine the cause of your outrage to better understand racism.

Exactly. Those who are "offended" now, where have they been while the shoe's been firmly planted on the other foot since before this country was even founded, and continuing to today?

If it's offensive, well all I can say to you is "welcome to the club. Get used to it." If you can't handle that, then work to change it. MAKE things equal between the races. I doubt any of you have what it takes to do that. If you did, it would've been done already. Either that or it was acceptable until it affected your color/nationality.

cherylncliff 05-25-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmio (Post 1950020)
A few days ago Lori Lightfoot, the black mayor of Chicago announced that she will only be granting interviews with "people of color". She flat-out and proudly said that whites are excluded from talking/interviewing her.
Her racist attitude is alarming as not only a person, but is magnified by the fact that she is the mayor of Chicago.
Imagine being the reporter whose "beat" is Chicago politics? There goes your way of life simply because you're caucasian.
Of course I have to ask that what if this was done by any other white mayor? What if Bill De Blasio, mayor of New York city or Gil Garcetti, mayor of L.A. proclaimed that they won't be interviewed if your a person of color? Oh my God! There would be mass coverage, people calling for their resignation or firing, protests in the streets! But no, it's a black person racially discriminating against a white, that seems to be ok and we just have to sit back and take it.
What bothers me more than this act is that no one seems to care? No major news coverage across the board? A couple of days a few outlets ran with it but with no great urgency to get to the bottom of it?
Maybe the "bottom of it" is that we as white people should just take it and get use to it?
We seem to be doing a stellar job at it so far.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...or-interviews/

Where was the outrage when Desantis only allowed Fox News into a bill signing? Where was the outrage when Trump only did interviews with Fox, Brightbart and OAN?

Gulfcoast 05-25-2021 09:21 AM

Chicago has become a war zone with people, including children, being gunned down on the streets. Anything, anything at all, to distract from that terrible fact.

GeriS 05-25-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1950024)
I don't believe she is exempting anyone from news briefings, just one-on-ones She is making the point that there are darn few reporters of color on the city hall beat. Therefore, she won't be getting many face to face interviews. Remember, our former president used to exclude certain media. It's a prerogative among the politically powerful.

You are out of touch.

Brynnie 05-25-2021 09:26 AM

Fault?
 
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1950065)
I don't listen to much news these days, especially since conglomerates and Australians took over. And, I realize now why this forum supposedly won't allow politics. Emotions always cloud logic.

I did read a variety of news sources, however, once I saw this thread. The woman mayor was trying to promote reporters of color, since there were virtually no black reporters in Chicago. It wasn't the press conferences she was referring to, it was only the one on one interviews, that EVERY politician chooses to do on one to ones. I'm surprised this thread is still up.

Whose fault is it that there are "virtually no black reporters in Chicago"? Could it be that no one wants to be a "black reporter in Chicago"? There are scholarships and financial aid for anyone who's qualified (grade-wise) to go to college and major in broadcasting and/or journalism and become a "black reporter in Chicago". Why does this kind of thing always have to be a racial issue? People of any color/race who want to succeed can do so with determination. If Lightfoot really wanted to help black citizens, she would be finding ways to encourage black youth to develop goals and finding ways to help them achieve those goals. Her time would be better spent being constructive rather than destructive.

brfree1411@aol.com 05-25-2021 09:32 AM

Why is anyone surprised by the Chicago mayor’s actions. No one was shocked that she the mayor closed most business in the city during the Covid scare but thought it was completely within her rights to get her hair done without a mask and behind closed doors.
I just came back from Chicago and went to my grandchildren’s soccer games while they participated while wearing masks during play.

Shoogley 05-25-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Road-Runner (Post 1950028)
Coverage very much depended on which channel(s) you were watching, but even on Fox this news item just ran together with everything else that's happening in this country right now, the story didn't stand out from the rest.

Therefore she should be ignored as irrelevant and not promoted in any way or form.

JP 05-25-2021 09:33 AM

Could it be that black reporters in Chicago suck. You can't give people jobs based on their skin color.

I'm Popeye! 05-25-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1950428)
Where was the outrage when Desantis only allowed Fox News into a bill signing? Where was the outrage when Trump only did interviews with Fox, Brightbart and OAN?

How many times have you seen the current President on Fox News after many invites to attend their station?

Maryland Girl 05-25-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blampron (Post 1950398)
“White people in North America live in a society that is deeply separate and unequal by race, and white people are the beneficiaries of that separation and inequality.” - White Fragility.
Your comment explicitly demonstrates how uncomfortable white people are when they are confronted with the fact that we live in a White supremacist society which explicitly benefits white people. When the roles are reversed, it results in the same outrage people of color have lived with for centuries. Instead of being outraged I would suggest that you step back and examine the cause of your outrage to better understand racism.

The ways you are wrong are many.

Luisa 05-25-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmio (Post 1950020)
A few days ago Lori Lightfoot, the black mayor of Chicago announced that she will only be granting interviews with "people of color". She flat-out and proudly said that whites are excluded from talking/interviewing her.
Her racist attitude is alarming as not only a person, but is magnified by the fact that she is the mayor of Chicago.
Imagine being the reporter whose "beat" is Chicago politics? There goes your way of life simply because you're caucasian.
Of course I have to ask that what if this was done by any other white mayor? What if Bill De Blasio, mayor of New York city or Gil Garcetti, mayor of L.A. proclaimed that they won't be interviewed if your a person of color? Oh my God! There would be mass coverage, people calling for their resignation or firing, protests in the streets! But no, it's a black person racially discriminating against a white, that seems to be ok and we just have to sit back and take it.
What bothers me more than this act is that no one seems to care? No major news coverage across the board? A couple of days a few outlets ran with it but with no great urgency to get to the bottom of it?
Maybe the "bottom of it" is that we as white people should just take it and get use to it?
We seem to be doing a stellar job at it so far.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...or-interviews/

Yes racism against white people is alive and well in America.

oneclickplus 05-25-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1950024)
I don't believe she is exempting anyone from news briefings, just one-on-ones She is making the point that there are darn few reporters of color on the city hall beat. Therefore, she won't be getting many face to face interviews. Remember, our former president used to exclude certain media. It's a prerogative among the politically powerful.

Yeah, but he didn't do it by race. He did it by bias and idiocy. She is a racist and she just announced it for all to know.

oneclickplus 05-25-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1950035)
Well, actually, she said for the ONE DAY in recognition of blacks issues and struggles she was only going to accept interviews on THAT one day from people of color.

So sad how much hate on here.

The hate isn't her personally. I hate her racism for even the "one day". As already asserted, no white person could make a similar statement without riots and fires and looting. You know that's true.

Bucco 05-25-2021 11:14 AM

To respond directly to the OPs question...."Where is the national outrage"

Perhaps the attack on our nations capital has numbed everyone to outrage.

If that attack by thugs, and as you read facts about those arrested, many armed to do serious damage physically, it is apparent those wearing their "colors" to insure we all knew on whose behalf this was done, were n fact, thugs.

National outrage because a mayor made a one day stand. I think not. If a vicious, in excess of 300 million dollar attack, on our actual capital is condoned...there is no more conscience to spawn outrage.

I know this gets deleted. We may not speak ill of this attack, or the leader on whose behalf it took place, or the total complete bold face lies told to motivate it.

Meanwhile those who were behind the attacks, cheered them on, still defend them, and the liar who took us there are now asking for "fairness" in public discourse. They feel it is a right to verbally attack, inspire violence based on nothing.

The multitude of threads and posts discussing skin color, and ignoring the why......And the absolute forced silence on Jan 6 events is disturbing. Of course, all Americans decry violence in any name, except it appears to promote a HUGE set of lies and the person who invented them.. That is allowed.

Their premise is an affront.

Holpat39 05-25-2021 11:25 AM

Maybe not enough people of color are attracted to that field of journalism in Chicago. There are underlying facts that don't get discussed. One side of the story only. To disqualify a white news reporter just because he is white is racist. Maybe there are more white news reporters than those of color in Chicago? Coming from Chicago I know she is much disliked but the alternative for mayor was worse.

Holpat39 05-25-2021 11:29 AM

She did not say for one day only. She said for one day she made that statement and will stick by it.

golfing eagles 05-25-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1950489)
To respond directly to the OPs question...."Where is the national outrage"

Perhaps the attack on our nations capital has numbed everyone to outrage.

If that attack by thugs, and as you read facts about those arrested, many armed to do serious damage physically, it is apparent those wearing their "colors" to insure we all knew on whose behalf this was done, were n fact, thugs.

National outrage because a mayor made a one day stand. I think not. If a vicious, in excess of 300 million dollar attack, on our actual capital is condoned...there is no more conscience to spawn outrage.

I know this gets deleted. We may not speak ill of this attack, or the leader on whose behalf it took place, or the total complete bold face lies told to motivate it.

Meanwhile those who were behind the attacks, cheered them on, still defend them, and the liar who took us there are now asking for "fairness" in public discourse. They feel it is a right to verbally attack, inspire violence based on nothing.

The multitude of threads and posts discussing skin color, and ignoring the why......And the absolute forced silence on Jan 6 events is disturbing. Of course, all Americans decry violence in any name, except it appears to promote a HUGE set of lies and the person who invented them.. That is allowed.

Their premise is an affront.

I will go so far as to agree that the capitol attack was despicable and indefensible.

However, before addressing that disaster, let's address the other "attacks" in chronological order:

Rioting in LA after Rodney King
Rioting in Ferguson Missouri
Rioting in Baltimore
Attacks on cops in NYC
Rioting in Atlanta
Rioting in Minneapolis

Does anyone see a pattern here????

I hope you are not insinuating that those "events" were OK because the perpetrators were of a specific ethnic group, but the capitol attacks were the sole instance of violence by a different ethnic group.

It's a good thing I wasn't in charge, because in all those events, including the capitol attack, instead of allowing them to burn and loot, I would have sent out the national guard with orders to shoot to kill. Would probably only need to wound 1 or 2 and the rest would get the message loud and clear

Rooklift 05-25-2021 11:40 AM

Exclusion not based on race. Bad comment.

jimjamuser 05-25-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmio (Post 1950020)
A few days ago Lori Lightfoot, the black mayor of Chicago announced that she will only be granting interviews with "people of color". She flat-out and proudly said that whites are excluded from talking/interviewing her.
Her racist attitude is alarming as not only a person, but is magnified by the fact that she is the mayor of Chicago.
Imagine being the reporter whose "beat" is Chicago politics? There goes your way of life simply because you're caucasian.
Of course I have to ask that what if this was done by any other white mayor? What if Bill De Blasio, mayor of New York city or Gil Garcetti, mayor of L.A. proclaimed that they won't be interviewed if your a person of color? Oh my God! There would be mass coverage, people calling for their resignation or firing, protests in the streets! But no, it's a black person racially discriminating against a white, that seems to be ok and we just have to sit back and take it.
What bothers me more than this act is that no one seems to care? No major news coverage across the board? A couple of days a few outlets ran with it but with no great urgency to get to the bottom of it?
Maybe the "bottom of it" is that we as white people should just take it and get use to it?
We seem to be doing a stellar job at it so far.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...or-interviews/

I like it. It is almost humorous! Turn about IS fair play! She IS the duly elected Mayor. I HAVE to respect that. Black, browns, and women have been de-emphasized for FAR too long in US society. Catching up IS desperately needed. We NEED to be more INCLUSIONARY in order to have a stronger society and advance faster on moral and scientific grounds. Mayor Lightfoot may be making a statement that we need to be more "fair and balanced" - and she IS doing her best to "catch up". I applaud her for making a statement. A Mayor of a large city like Chicago SHOULD be controversial to shine a light on a problem. History books have tried too often to erase the importance of both Native Americans and minorities.

It is the patriotic duty of people like Lightfoot and Nikole Hannah-Jones, the 1619 Project Author to shine the light on Historic inequities!

billyb1950 05-25-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1950043)
If she had an issue with a Caucasian reporter and doesn’t want that reporter to interview her, that’s fine. But to allow reporters to interview her, strictly based on skin color, is the very definition of racism...

I understand she is lesbian and has a white partner.

Stu from NYC 05-25-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1950501)
I will go so far as to agree that the capitol attack was despicable and indefensible.

However, before addressing that disaster, let's address the other "attacks" in chronological order:

Rioting in LA after Rodney King
Rioting in Ferguson Missouri
Rioting in Baltimore
Attacks on cops in NYC
Rioting in Atlanta
Rioting in Minneapolis

Does anyone see a pattern here????

I hope you are not insinuating that those "events" were OK because the perpetrators were of a specific ethnic group, but the capitol attacks were the sole instance of violence by a different ethnic group.

It's a good thing I wasn't in charge, because in all those events, including the capitol attack, instead of allowing them to burn and loot, I would have sent out the national guard with orders to shoot to kill. Would probably only need to wound 1 or 2 and the rest would get the message loud and clear

Looters should be punished and if you make an example of a couple by shooting them the rest will get the message.

Gulfcoast 05-25-2021 12:33 PM

Have you noticed that it's only the politicians of poorly run, disaster zone cities that race bait like this?

Byte1 05-25-2021 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lpkruege1 (Post 1950390)
Anytime you exclude a person BECAUSE of the color of their skin, is racist. You can ride the bus but those of you that are black have to sit at the back. You can go to the movies but you have to sit in your section. Only those of you that are white can use these bubblers. Really, how can anyone justify racism under any circumstance?

Where is that going on?

Gulfcoast 05-25-2021 12:57 PM

Mayor Lightfoot needs to stop using distractions as a shield to avoid criticism and to avoid answering tough questions.

Byte1 05-25-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1950428)
Where was the outrage when Desantis only allowed Fox News into a bill signing? Where was the outrage when Trump only did interviews with Fox, Brightbart and OAN?

No outrage here. That wasn't racist at all. Apples and pork rinds is what you are comparing.

Bucco 05-25-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1950530)
Looters should be punished and if you make an example of a couple by shooting them the rest will get the message.

Even those who attack your nations capitol, 300 million plus in damages for you to pay, based on outrageous lies ?

And looters are bad, but on here where we ONLY discuss their stupid antics, and disregard for law, but never ever do we discuss, what might percipitate such violence.

But, we are mum, silent about those who invade our capitol....amazing how you justify

Bucco 05-25-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1950540)
No outrage here. That wasn't racist at all. Apples and pork rinds is what you are comparing.

Well, he basically shut out Florida residents, except if they can tolerate Fox.

Not racist but certainly non-inclusivel. Not something for an American elected official to be proud of, as he was.


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