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LoisR 02-25-2021 08:09 AM

Stupidity is amazing. Just do what he says and live life long and prosper. It's certainly better than a glass of chlorine.

Nannyof3 02-25-2021 08:10 AM

early on
 
early on someone else said "15 cases, by the end of the month it will bee ZERO"
Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)
:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:


Tmarkwald 02-25-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1907669)
Stupidity is amazing. Just do what he says and live life long and prosper. It's certainly better than a glass of chlorine.

Sheep follow blindly....

merrymini 02-25-2021 08:12 AM

Tired of F and would not listen to anything he says.
He did what he wanted, not what the administration wanted. He is a left guy.
He is a liar.
WHO lies.
CDC doe not have a clue.
Assumptions that masks actually work against this virus.
California shut down, Florida did not. Look at the numbers. Florida wins.
Vaccines not fully vetted, using population as guinea pigs for long term effects.
Most people who get the chinese flu, yes, the chinese flu, do not die.
Media has led the population by a ring in it’s preverbal nose.
If the death numbers from 2019 to 2020 are only 50,000 different, how did 500,000 people die from covid?
Don’t let facts get in the way!

mydavid 02-25-2021 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canyonblue (Post 1907253)
Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

we can't go back to normal until enough people get the vaccine to create herd immunity, so do your part get the shot.:welcome:

tvbound 02-25-2021 08:18 AM

"Mixed messages" is simply another way of saying that as new science comes in, a person is willing to change their professional assessment. On the opposite side of that coin, lies those who can never admit they were wrong and refuse to change their minds, regardless of the facts showing otherwise. Let's be totally honest, the predominant criticism of Fauci (and others) are coming because of a single person - that has told the faithful on what to think.

jbrown132 02-25-2021 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=DeanFL;1907219].
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?[/QUOTE

Dr. Fauci’s job is supposed to be to recommend to the president a course of action based solely on medical or scientific evidence. This is only one input. The president then has to listen to his economic, education military advisors etc. and way all of these factors in creating a public policy. This is a no win situation for any, and I mean any president. What good is a perfectly healthy country If the country is destroyed economically, or our kid are left seriously behind and mentally broken. Unfortunately, Dr Fauci has reached a point where he cannot pass a camera by and believes he is in charge of public policy.

graciegirl 02-25-2021 08:25 AM

Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia

TSO/ISPF 02-25-2021 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907276)
Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning. :ho:

Considering the subject of the original poster, I would say in that context, your statement of fact was a slight of the good Doctor.
:throwtomatoes:

GypsyRN 02-25-2021 08:28 AM

:ohdear:
Quote:

Originally Posted by canyonblue (Post 1907253)
Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

:ohdear: What a Quack. His 15 mins of fame is LONGGGGG gone. Get the hook out.

lkagele 02-25-2021 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chet2020 (Post 1907516)
There was concern that people vaccinated could carry the virus for a short period of time and infect other people even though they were not in danger themselves. That's why Fauci was cautious about throwing away the masks.

Lately there's been a push by certain people to make Fauci the scapegoat for everything from A to Z and some of us are apparently buying it. It does not reflect well on us.

Interesting point and I think your observation is spot on. Fact of the matter is, this virus is uncontrollable. The best chance we would have had to perhaps limit the damage it would cause was by China when the virus first escaped into the general public.

You can be as upset as you want at Trump, Fauci, Biden (take your pick) but in reality it's China that should be getting 100% of the blame. Our partisan news media and politics are so absurd these days that instead of blaming the real culprit, we're blaming ourselves.

Lindaws 02-25-2021 08:31 AM

Sure agree with you. I don’t (AtAll) listen to his advice. I see my family when I want
NOT when someone like Fauci says I can. Our country has to wake up SOON

jbrown132 02-25-2021 08:33 AM

[QUOTE=jbrown132;1907683]
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?[/QUOTE

Dr. Fauci’s job is supposed to be to recommend to the president a course of action based solely on medical or scientific evidence. This is only one input. The president then has to listen to his economic, education military advisors etc. and way all of these factors in creating a public policy. This is a no win situation for any, and I mean any president. What good is a perfectly healthy country If the country is destroyed economically, or our kid are left seriously behind and mentally broken. Unfortunately, Dr Fauci has reached a point where he cannot pass a camera by and believes he is in charge of public policy.

This was the original OP. Don’t know we’re my comment went.

kenoc7 02-25-2021 08:33 AM

Dr. Fauci
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1907233)
I have 100% respect for Dr. Fauci's expertise and knowledge.

So do I.. With over 500,000 Americans dead it is truly incredible and sad that many people on this forum continue to question public health measures and the advice from Dr, Fauci. Wake up people - America has the worst death toll of all developed countries because leaders and a large slice of the population refused to advocate for or follow common-sense public health measures.

Andyb 02-25-2021 08:36 AM

He is part of the deep state, his job is to spread fear and a progressive agenda. Period.

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 1907657)
His knowledge and response are based on playing it safe. He only wants to guide us not tell us what to do. That not is job. His options are based on scientific research and first hand knowledge. So do kill the messenger and don’t play it safe. So if u don’t like him that’s fine. But don’t blame him for practicing safe science

I guess his examples of playing it safe included the time he sat side by side people at a baseball game with no mask on...while preaching to the country they couldn’t hug their own grandchildren...

Cheryl Barrios 02-25-2021 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katieburr (Post 1907281)
Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year... The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

I know that you want to believe this - but he hasn't kept us alive for the past year and if you believe he has, he has also said that even if everyone was vaccinated we would still be wearing our masks, washing or hands, social distancing, and those with grandchildren would still not be able to see them.

I wear my mask (in public), I was my hands frequently and even when I should based on our "before Covid life", I social distance. I still go to the grocery store, the general stores I need to go to, restaurants, and family events. I know of large, large, large communities of people who aren't eligible for the vaccination because of their age who do the same. None have been hit with Covid unless they didn't know. The only people I know who have had it - stayed home, some ordered and picked up groceries wearing their masks the entire way in a car by themselves, they have walked outside with their masks on to get their mail or paper, and been alone every day all day. I feel very sad for them because they were too scared to do anything but still ended up with Covid.

Who knows the answers, even some of them? I don't believe Fauci does. I believe that right now he has the little-man syndrome - a little man, who sat by himself, who now has the world listening to him, and people dying everywhere who did.

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1907531)
👍
2021 and Science is still not trusted by some. So sad.

Science? You mean subjective opinions? People love throwing that word science out there, as if they are the scientist...

DeanFL 02-25-2021 08:45 AM

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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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Cobullymom 02-25-2021 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1907583)
Absolutely agree 100%...

I guess only my posts that agree with someone are not censored and deleted, unlike several who have expressed very derogatory opinions about Fauci, my opinion of him, which are not good at all have been deleted, is anyone else having this issue?

Cheryl Barrios 02-25-2021 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1907389)
Why did he say that? Money in it for his department. IMO he flip flops too much. Also why FDA dragging feet to evaluate J&J vaccine. That one going to be game changer IMO, you’ll be able to get at drug store, urgent care centers, doctor offices, anywhere where there a pharmacy.

Dragging their feet with J&J - yep, keeps the money where he wants it, in his pocket.

richs631 02-25-2021 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

I call him Dr. Fakkchi. He reminds me of judge Lance Ito from OJ Simpsons trial. This guy is more interested in TV time than anything else

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907711)
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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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Thank you, yes it’s the China virus that started it all, before all of the other countries variants..excellent point.

graciegirl 02-25-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1907715)
I guess only my posts that agree with someone are not censored and deleted, unlike several who have expressed very derogatory opinions about Fauci, my opinion of him, which are not good at all have been deleted, is anyone else having this issue?

If that is happening, I do not agree with that at all. It has happened here before. It happens to me a lot.
Free speech is a wonderful thing, even though we don't all agree.

Anthony Fauci is someone I trust to give us advice about viruses and how they effect the public. He has advised Presidents since Ronald Reagan. He is skilled in science, but is human as well and not above giving his opinions sometimes on subjects unrelated to medicine. I think he has done very well for himself as a short guy from Brooklyn.

richs631 02-25-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katieburr (Post 1907281)
Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Dr. Faki has kept us alive. WOW, your drinking a lot of the kool aide

Waltdisney4life 02-25-2021 08:57 AM

Careful some people think he walks on water blind to the fact that he has a political agenda!!!

Spalumbos62 02-25-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)
:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

And he backed off that and said he was incorrect...as an intelligent, moral person should do. Unlike others that threw suggestions of clorox out to the public.

He's human, it was all new and changing daily...how could anyone find fault under those circumstances...jezzzzzz

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1907721)
If that is happening, I do not agree with that at all. It has happened here before. It happens to me a lot.
Free speech is a wonderful thing, even though we don't all agree.

Anthony Fauci is someone I trust to give us advice about viruses and how they effect the public. He has advised Presidents since Ronald Reagan. He is skilled in science, but is human as well and not above giving his opinions sometimes on subjects unrelated to medicine. I think he has done very well for himself as a short guy from Brooklyn.

Thank you, we finally agree! I appreciate your response....

Cobullymom 02-25-2021 09:06 AM

[QUOTE=jbrown132;1907700]
Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1907683)

This was the original OP. Don’t know we’re my comment went.

Probably got deleted like several of mine...

GPGuar 02-25-2021 09:14 AM

:bigbow:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1907286)
That is the truth? And how do you know that is the truth? Did you see it written on stone tablets? Or did you hear it from the same man who said wearing masks would give a false sense of security and would be worse than no mask at all.....until he changed his mind?

Fauci is dealing with new information and sometimes has to change guidance based on that new information. Unfortunately, he seems to also be leveraging his reputation to attempt to drive public behaviors. "Fauci said" is heard more often than "Simon says" these days. In the case of the masks, he acknowledged that part of the reason for his initial message was to preserve masks for doctors - he was trying to drive our behavior. In the case of the number of vaccinations needed for herd immunity he acknowledged that he increased his estimate when he learned that more people were accepting the vaccine - it was off to a good start so he could shoot higher and attempt to get even more people on board.

I trust his expertise but I don't trust the man. I believe he knows his field but I suspect this virus is doing things he doesn't expect and he's struggling to understand it. When he talks about science he has credibility but when he attempts to sway public opinion and drive behaviors he loses it.

:bigbow: Well said.

nhtexasrn 02-25-2021 09:14 AM

I don't know who is pulling this guy's strings, but it's not someone who cares about the American people.

RedChariot 02-25-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katieburr (Post 1907281)
Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Truth. As far as The Villagers with no masks - No fool like an old fool.

Spalumbos62 02-25-2021 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1907248)
My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

To me, it seems like people have mental blocks and only hear what they want. Right from the get go I heard that the vaccine is NOT the end all. We still will have to wear mask, keep distance, etc, etc because you can still carry it to others. That was said since day one!
It floors me that people think... oh now I can hug the grandkids, eat in a crowded restaurant... think about it...you're sitting next to dumb and dumber, who refused to get a shot and let's say they have it (and don't realize)....now its jumped to you...but you got your shot, it will basically leave you alone, but its with you. Now you head over to see grandkids....and there you go.

My biggest fear is all these children will come down with it bc g-ma & g-pa were misinformed.

They never said you won't carry it, or you won't ever get it again...you could-but it will be mild and not kill you.
So use common sense.

Marykschulz 02-25-2021 09:20 AM

Many people only believe the “information” that already fits with their previous beliefs. Information about Covid has changed as the science around it has learned more, so of course Fauci would change recommendations. I’m sticking with the science and Fauci.

Joe C. 02-25-2021 09:24 AM

Dr. Fauci hasn't kept me alive.......I've kept (by the grace of God) myself alive. I still travel, go to restaurants and keep myself busy. No vaccine for me, but I have always "washed my hands" and used common sense in most everything I do. But I WILL NOT listen to the public mouthpiece that permeates the media. I am in the "high risk" category but I have no worries.
BTW......Dr. Fauci makes on the high side of $400 thousand dollars a year.....not bad for a government employee. He should have retired fifteen years ago.

Spalumbos62 02-25-2021 09:28 AM

He did explain why they want 2 doses.

kenoc7 02-25-2021 09:32 AM

Blame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1907694)
Interesting point and I think your observation is spot on. Fact of the matter is, this virus is uncontrollable. The best chance we would have had to perhaps limit the damage it would cause was by China when the virus first escaped into the general public.

You can be as upset as you want at Trump, Fauci, Biden (take your pick) but in reality it's China that should be getting 100% of the blame. Our partisan news media and politics are so absurd these days that instead of blaming the real culprit, we're blaming ourselves.

No the blame in America goes to those who reused to take COVID-19 seriously not China. Many countries have controlled the virus well with very few deaths. America has over 500,000 deaths - worst in the world

ScottGo 02-25-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1907310)
He needs to be taken behind the school for a beatin'. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am disappointed in him for many reasons. I'm like Quick Draw McGraw with the remote when he comes on TV.

What grade are you in, sounds like elementary school. GROW UP.

Pat La Rosa 02-25-2021 09:36 AM

Think about it. We in Florida who have a great Governor who has more common sense in his pinky than Dr. Fauci have had a pretty good year during this Pandemic. If he listened to Fauci we would have been in our houses all day twiddling our fingers. I have enjoyed going out for dinner at least 3 or 4 times a week all year as well as playing golf every day with no adverse affects. Thank God I moved the hell out of New Jersey. All my friends there are complaining about their stupid governor who has his head up you know what. They want to get out of NJ as soon as they can. I told all my conservative friends to come to Florida and I told all my liberal friends (who I have many) to move to California since it has better weather than Florida. If I died tomorrow I would have a smile on my face because I wasn't scared by this jerk Fauci. God Bless America.

bocaabend 02-25-2021 09:37 AM

He’s so involved with himself. I can’t watch or listen to him and I definitely don’t trust him


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