Originally Posted by Serendipatti (Post 1907924)

He also was working under some tight constraints and encouraged by one particular ex-political whack-job to give out not-so-honest information.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1907284)

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1907933)

So, yah, let's keep piling on.

Originally Posted by Pallvl (Post 1907934)

As a retired RN, I couldn't agree with you more. He is a double minded man unstable in all his ways.

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1907933)

Early on he didn't have the same information that he now has. Dr. Fauci has worked with numerous Presidents and never has he been hated on or needed personal security as he does now. So, yah, let's keep piling on.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1907246)

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1907247)

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

Originally Posted by Jerry Leinsing (Post 1907914)

I am surprised at all the idiots who post on here that find fault with those trying to do a good job with the info at hand. Having a battle of wits with them is like fighting with an unarmed man. No challenge. The best suggestion I heard came from a mask wearing believer that said, “Those of you who want to resist all the precautions should have a real nice photo taken of themselves so their kin might have something to remember them by in case their luck is also shortsighted.
Paying attention to political figures for information on a subject like this is also shortsighted. What happened to independent thinkers that can listen to men like Dr. Fauci and weigh the possibility that he is right or almost right most of the time.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1907889)

Faucci has always been a political hack for the left. I have never trusted anything he says. He's been working for the gov for over two decades.

Originally Posted by cj740@comcast.net (Post 1907972)

Are you a banker?

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907334)

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????[/QUOTE]

That he's full of s***!

Originally Posted by taruffi57 (Post 1907780)

All you need to do is research the good doctor's history and his very lucative connections to the pharmaceuticals industry. Why he is the virus spokesperson makes no sense.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907711)

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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1907673)

Sheep follow blindly....

Originally Posted by Astron (Post 1907971)

Science works by making a statement based on available knowledge and then researching the subject. If you are correct, continue research. If the research proves your hypothesis was incorrect you implement the research findings and continue to research what the new findings suggest.
Early on it was a hypothesis that the primary vector of infection would be surface contamination and not airborne transmission. When research found airborne transmission was the primary route of infection, public health recommendations were updated to reflect research findings and research continued along the lines that looked promising.
Science is a process of learning through the testing of hypothesis, it is not a crystal ball providing instant and infallible answers. Doctor Fauci is trying to provide the best current public health guidelines based on ongoing and evolving research of a new and novel virus that we have only been researching for months. He has decades of proven expertise in this, but good science takes time and is going to lead to needed changes in public health recommendations as the understanding of COVID19 grows and the virus mutates.

Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1907832)

Obama had banned the study of the coronavirus in the US because it was "dangerous". Fauci at NIH funded the coronavirus development in Wuhan using over 7 million of taxpayer dollars. The whole world gets the coronavirus. Then Fauci steps in to "save the day". Now Fauci is providing new funding to develop and study viruses in Wuhan again. Does anyone else see the lunacy of Fauci and this health policy?

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1907889)

Faucci has always been a political hack for the left. I have never trusted anything he says. He's been working for the gov for over two decades.

Originally Posted by Astron (Post 1907971)

Science works by making a statement based on available knowledge and then researching the subject. If you are correct, continue research. If the research proves your hypothesis was incorrect you implement the research findings and continue to research what the new findings suggest.
Early on it was a hypothesis that the primary vector of infection would be surface contamination and not airborne transmission. When research found airborne transmission was the primary route of infection, public health recommendations were updated to reflect research findings and research continued along the lines that looked promising.
Science is a process of learning through the testing of hypothesis, it is not a crystal ball providing instant and infallible answers. Doctor Fauci is trying to provide the best current public health guidelines based on ongoing and evolving research of a new and novel virus that we have only been researching for months. He has decades of proven expertise in this, but good science takes time and is going to lead to needed changes in public health recommendations as the understanding of COVID19 grows and the virus mutates.

Originally Posted by cathy34787 (Post 1907907)

The information about the virus and the vaccines change on an almost daily basis. They don’t know what they don’t know yet. Changes are going to occur in any basically unknown situation and you change with it or be left in the dust. We’ve not experienced this before. Just have to see how it plays out. I got the vaccine but still don’t feel completely immune and sure wouldn’t want to give it to someone else.

Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1907929)

Prove that. With facts. Not hyperbole produced by your mind..

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1907899)

Very clearly tells me, despite high end “obstacles” he wanted to be honest and straightforward with the American public, as he has been under a number of presidents, etc, and now he can talk without being censored because he is being truthful

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907501)

Of course the Universal masking and social distancing request was to slow the spread. No one ever said wearing masks would eradicate the virus. And...... your point is?????

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1908055)

After these almost 200 posts, I'm not feel condemning at all.




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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1908057)

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1907219)

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1907273)

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?

Originally Posted by Jean G (Post 1908115)

On January 25th, 2021 the WHO (World Health Organization) declared there is NO VALUE OR BENEFIT TO WEARING A MASK. That was buried in by the news media. The same day Fauci said to wear two masks. The media ran with that. That was the last day I listened to anything Fauci has said.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907339)

This is a reply I made on another forum. This was my response to someone who claimed that Dr. Fauci said we did not have to wear masks if we were not symptomatic..........

I truly believe Dr. Fauci lied alright and I will never forgive him, even if it came from the top to tell the American people this lie. The reason I say this is because Dr. Fauci has worked with respiratory viruses his entire career and has devoted his life's work to epidemiology. The influenza virus has asymptomatic carriers of the virus so it was very possible the Covid virus would also. Why not err on the safe side???



Respiratory viruses are transmitted by droplets and aerosols and the Covid virus is no different. Dr. Fauci knew this. I understand why he lied. He even said he lied to us but for a good reason. He said he did not want Americans to purchase all the PPE that the health care professionals needed to take care of sick Covid patients. He apologized for the lie. I heard him say it in an interview on TV.



I honestly think if he and the administration at the time. were honest with the American people, we could have had a handle on the pandemic better than we have faired. Home made masks were better than nothing for protection but very effective for source control. All Dr. Fauci had to tell the American people was to cover our faces when in public with anything other than N95 or KN95 masks. Leave those N95 and KN95 masks for the health care professionals who are on the front lines fighting the war against Covid.



Just out of curiosity, early on in the pandemic, I went to Amazon to see how many N95 or KN95 masks there were and how much they were. To my surprise, every single listing for N95 or KN95 masks were blocked off to the public. They were only for sale for health care providers and health care facilities. That is all it took to prevent the general public from preventing those supplies from going to the health care professionals.



I firmly believe Dr. Fauci's hands were "tied" by his boss at the time. And I'm so damn mad about that!
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Having said all that.......I would like to add to this above comment that I still do trust Dr. Fauci. He made it very clear to the American people in months after the pandemic began, that he did lie about us not needing masks if we were not having symptoms but for a good reason. At least he admitted to the lie which, to me, is a testament to the man's character. He finally told us the truth which is more than I can say for his previous boss.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1907345)

Truer words were never spoken. IMHO, I have always thought that if EVERYONE wore a mask in public AND kept a safe distance from others ALL THE TIME, we would not be in this mess of a pandemic.

Originally Posted by Jean G (Post 1908115)

On January 25th, 2021 the WHO (World Health Organization) declared there is NO VALUE OR BENEFIT TO WEARING A MASK. That was buried in by the news media. The same day Fauci said to wear two masks. The media ran with that. That was the last day I listened to anything Fauci has said.

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1908063)

When this entire situation was in its infancy I remember telling my wife that instead of trying to follow all the advisers on television lets boil it down to two people. We picked Fauci and Dr Mark Siegel.

As time went on we noticed that Fauci seemed to Waffle on many different items that he was supposed to be advising the American People on. He lost our attention when he proved to be about as Stable As Jello. He is either a very confused person or he delivers very confusing messages.

I wish him no harm but I wouldn't mind seeing some new blood in his position. Maybe someone who could reenergize the effort to make some major progress.

I don't know that Fauci acting differently at a ballgame or in front of the camera would have made one bit of difference. I just drove past two different adult pools and they were jammed with people.