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Kenswing 06-02-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1776122)
Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

When 13% of the population accounts for over 1/2 of the murders wouldn't it stand to reason they're going to have more violent interactions with the police?


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anothersteve 06-02-2020 10:20 PM

Statics are like ******** I guess
Everyone has one
• People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1776220)
Statics are like ******** I guess
Everyone has one
• People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

13% of the population...but averaging 50% of the deaths.

Except this year, of which they are running...75% of the deaths.

And no breakdown of those...that were armed or unarmed. :oops:

Thanks for proving me correct and exposing yourself...at the same time! :thumbup:

A twofer. :1rotfl:

anothersteve 06-02-2020 10:28 PM

You are one obfuscating fool now ain't cha

Steve

anothersteve 06-02-2020 10:31 PM

We'll take this up tomorrow. I need some beauty sleep.
Sleep tight.
Steve

oneclickplus 06-03-2020 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1776122)
Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

Black men disproportionately (relative to their representation in the population) commit crimes in the USA. They are disproportionately engage by police, courts, jails due to their higher involvement in crime - not racism or discrimination.

"www" channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

From the article summary: "black Americans are more likely to commit certain types of crime than people of other races."

dewilson58 06-03-2020 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1776224)
We'll take this up tomorrow. I need some beauty sleep.
Sleep tight.
Steve


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MandoMan 06-03-2020 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1776097)
I just started to try to find out what I could about him and could not come up with very much although I imagine more will come out in the future. He was from the Houston area and had been in jail/imprisoned several times, going back at least to 1998. At least twice he had used a firearm committing a crime. The aggravated robbery for which he was imprisoned for five years is troubling, at least to me, although fortunately the victim was not shot. He moved to Minneapolis to get a fresh start in 2007. George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Thanks for posting that Daily News report with copies of his police and court records. It was startling. (I’m not going to stick up, though, for the cops who killed him.) The bloodwork from the police autopsy also shows that he was high on Fentanyl at the time of his death and had methamphetamine in his bloodstream. These things should all be taken into consideration, given the attempt to canonize him. He wasn’t a saint.

George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-03-2020 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1776122)
Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

Maybe because of this:

“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that. And we’ve got to do something about our moral standards,” Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told a congregation in 1961. “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”

chuckk281 06-03-2020 06:04 AM

A "model citizen" with fentanyl and meth in his system at time of death??

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-03-2020 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1776272)
Thanks for posting that Daily News report with copies of his police and court records. It was startling. (I’m not going to stick up, though, for the cops who killed him.) The bloodwork from the police autopsy also shows that he was high on Fentanyl at the time of his death and had methamphetamine in his bloodstream. These things should all be taken into consideration, given the attempt to canonize him. He wasn’t a saint.

George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Sounds like his new life in Minnesota was the same as his old life in Houston but colder.

I'm not defending what the officer did but I would point out that we don't have all of the facts. There are reports about what happened prior to the video that we see that we have seen that may change things.

One of the things about him yelling that he couldn't breathe is that suspects often say that when being subdued. I think that police are trained to ignore it because if a person is yelling, he's breathing. If a person truly cannot breathe then cannot vocalize.

We may disagree on a lot of things, but hopefully, we can agree on this:
https://i.imgur.com/7jmDuTX.png

Utrix53 06-03-2020 06:19 AM

Who was George Floyd
 
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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1776217)
He was a human being who, regardless of his past, should not have died in the fashion he did. No value is added by judging the dead.

Thanks for the ACTUAL graph of violent crimes categorized by race. We can't start qualifying a human being to determine if a police murder is no big deal. Floyd's past should have no bearing on his killing. A life is a life, it's that simple. Once we start separating people into piles of "deserve to be killed" and not, may be on a one way road.

Tom2172 06-03-2020 06:20 AM

Except it’s not true! It’s only true non fake news cnn

ColdNoMore 06-03-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Utrix53 (Post 1776300)
Thanks for the ACTUAL graph of violent crimes categorized by race. We can't start qualifying a human being to determine if a police murder is no big deal. Floyd's past should have no bearing on his killing. A life is a life, it's that simple. Once we start separating people into piles of "deserve to be killed" and not, may be on a one way road.

Well stated and absolutely dead-on. :thumbup:

GoodLife 06-03-2020 07:56 AM

Who was George Floyd?

Apparently a former armed robber and ex con who was turning over a new leaf by using fentanyl and meth while passing out counterfeit twenties.


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