[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Too much misinformation, too many uneducated people who truly believe conspiracy theories that malign these vaccines, too many people who listen to leaders that have down played the importance of getting vaccinated. That is just for starters.

The people being offered the $7,000 scholarships in exchange for getting the shot are hardly uneducated. They are college men and women, in an environment where the wisdom of vaccinations is never questioned--yet THEY are the ones resisting vaccinations, to the point where the Wisconsin University system has seen fit to convince them by offering them a VERY valuable commodity in exchange.

Were these people uneducated, isolated, easily influenced by media, I could see your point. But actually, they are the precise opposite.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The people being offered the $7,000 scholarships in exchange for getting the shot are hardly uneducated. They are college men and women, in an environment where the wisdom of vaccinations is never questioned--yet THEY are the ones resisting vaccinations, to the point where the Wisconsin University system has seen fit to convince them by offering them a VERY valuable commodity in exchange.

Were these people uneducated, isolated, easily influenced by media, I could see your point. But actually, they are the precise opposite.

Being educated does not provide immunity to misinformation about subjects you are not educated in.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

As the Associated Press notes, Walensky cited data from the last few days, still unpublished, taken from 100 samples from vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals with COVID infections. They found that the amount of virus in the noses and throats of vaccinated infected people was nearly "indistinguishable" from what was found in unvaccinated people, confirming what some experts have suspected. The increased viral load associated with the Delta variant appears to make vaccinated people equal spreaders of the virus. Walensky said that the data was "concerning enough that we feel like we have to act."

OK, thanks. Got it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The people being offered the $7,000 scholarships in exchange for getting the shot are hardly uneducated. They are college men and women, in an environment where the wisdom of vaccinations is never questioned--yet THEY are the ones resisting vaccinations, to the point where the Wisconsin University system has seen fit to convince them by offering them a VERY valuable commodity in exchange.

Were these people uneducated, isolated, easily influenced by media, I could see your point. But actually, they are the precise opposite.

If these so called "educated" college people are not believing conspiracy theories then they are scared. There is no justifiable explanation as to why they are refusing a life saving vaccine. NONE!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Being educated does not provide immunity to misinformation about subjects you are not educated in.

Precisely!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by blueash

As the original post seemed to be pointing at non-whites as a major factor, I offer for your consideration a graph which plots the % of persons immunized [both doses] in a county against the % of votes for Trump in the 2020 election. What it clearly shows it that the higher the Trump vote the lower the vaccination rate. This is overwhelmingly the single best predictor of vaccine acceptance, not race, not income, not state.

There are outlying data points, Biden counties with low vaccination rates, and Trump counties with high vaccination rates, but the trend is extremely strong. Note Sumter Co Florida which stands out as a Trump county but a high vaccine success rate, 68% for both measurements.

The grafts are flaunted IMO, Blue counties are more metropolitan areas where vaccine readily available. Red counties are more rural and further away from access to vaccine, neither are close to the target. IMO why so called red counties are at lower vaccinated rate, little or no easy access. IMO It makes getting shots a lot harder. Poor rural American totally different country when compared to metropolitan areas when everything ease access.

Originally Posted by blueash

As the original post seemed to be pointing at non-whites as a major factor, I offer for your consideration a graph which plots the % of persons immunized [both doses] in a county against the % of votes for Trump in the 2020 election. What it clearly shows it that the higher the Trump vote the lower the vaccination rate. This is overwhelmingly the single best predictor of vaccine acceptance, not race, not income, not state.

There are outlying data points, Biden counties with low vaccination rates, and Trump counties with high vaccination rates, but the trend is extremely strong. Note Sumter Co Florida which stands out as a Trump county but a high vaccine success rate, 68% for both measurements.

Spurious correlation.

[Cheapbas]

Why is someone from Ocala posting anti vaccine rhetoric in The Villages blog? The government is not forcing people to get vaccinated they are strongly encouraging it. It’s the same responsibility as not getting behind the wheel of a car after a dozen martinis, you’re a risk to anyone who crosses your path.

[Sheltie-Lover]

This wave is caused by the unvaccinated. Keep China out of the equation. And your data is extremely faulty and not vetted

[WesMan]

Get the shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Here we go again, "fear-mongering" accusation for anyone that says anything some people disagree with. The ENTIRE world is complicit in this conspiracy to drive people into a panic over the virus.

Yup. It's part of the great reset. History is going to look back at this period as the greatest over-reaction of all time.

CDC is currently lying about the risk to school age children which in reality is practically nil. Wearing masks is probably more harmful to kids than the risks they face from COVID. But, when you get kids used to being controlled, it's easier to control them when they become adults.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW

Nope not doomed, the MRNA vaccines can be adapted fairly quickly, new boosters already in the works.

Great, we can get new shots every week. The Chinese love that money.

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

If these so called "educated" college people are not believing conspiracy theories then they are scared. There is no justifiable explanation as to why they are refusing a life saving vaccine. NONE!

Have to respectfully disagree on that one. Adverse reactions to the vaccine are not being analyzed or presented accurately. The risks to most folks under 50 are similar to the flu. Since it hasn't been around long enough, there are no studies yet that examine any long term effects of the vaccine. According to CDC info, seasonal flu is more deadly to children than COVID has been.

Riddle me this, vaxman. Why is the Center for DISEASE CONTROL pushing so hard to have everyone vaccinated but it doesn't have any prescribed course of treatment if you contract the disease?

[Bay Kid]

Control. Lets make people wear mask again, no matter if they have been vaccinated. Where did this virus come from. Did it cross our border over the last 6 months?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Yup. It's part of the great reset. History is going to look back at this period as the greatest over-reaction of all time.

CDC is currently lying about the risk to school age children which in reality is practically nil. Wearing masks is probably more harmful to kids than the risks they face from COVID. But, when you get kids used to being controlled, it's easier to control them when they become adults.

Have you had the shot?

I don't know how history will look at it, but this is a scary virus and it could continue to mutate unless we get it stopped. History may not have folks to record this nasty possibility.