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CDC is currently lying about the risk to school age children which in reality is practically nil. Wearing masks is probably more harmful to kids than the risks they face from COVID. But, when you get kids used to being controlled, it's easier to control them when they become adults. |
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Riddle me this, vaxman. Why is the Center for DISEASE CONTROL pushing so hard to have everyone vaccinated but it doesn't have any prescribed course of treatment if you contract the disease? |
Control. Lets make people wear mask again, no matter if they have been vaccinated. Where did this virus come from. Did it cross our border over the last 6 months?
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I don't know how history will look at it, but this is a scary virus and it could continue to mutate unless we get it stopped. History may not have folks to record this nasty possibility. |
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The other problem with the OP is that this is not a disease it is a virus, there is a difference between the two. Most notably is that C19 is here to stay, that is the way it was designed. Conspiracy theories and not - this is actually a reality which brings me to one other issue with what the OP listed - IF people under 40 are more likely to die from the flu, where is the dividing line? The flu has variants and is also a coronavirus, to the point that a person with just a flu can and has tested positive for C19. One thing is very obvious all the forward looking information that does get published isn't really fact it's speculation at best. All the historical data that is published , well if the present and future are speculation that doesn't lend well to the past. Face it vax or no vax, mask or no mask, test or no test, there is nothing that will stop C19 from existing we will just become "body tolerant" of it eventually just like the rest of the coronavirus family we live with. This is the reality like it or not. P.S. I will bow out now, as I realize this post will probably cause more flame ups and other items that just are worthless to answer. Have fun firing at the topic. |
If we are lucky, maybe polio, smallpox, diphtheria, etc. will all make a full come back and all the anti vaxers can rest on their laurels and say "GLORY BE, WE WON".
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I do not know the point you are trying to make or the premise you are trying to defend but it appears to me to be that in the U.S. blacks are highest among the unvaccinated and Asians are the winner of this racial profiling. I voted for Trump because of several reasons, not my adoration of him for sure and I watched him make statements that seemed to me to be almost completely ignorant of medicine and general science. I have seen valid polls and I will try to find one to link that about 70% of this country support science and stand with Fauci. I certainly do. The people in Sumter county who are older are generally not college educated, but they seem to have some factors that make them wise. I am not at all surprised to see that Villagers have chosen to be vaccinated and they are....approximately 70% of us and I am very proud of that. I am proud of their having the highest credit ratings in the country. I am saddened by the fact that it appears there are many people due to many reasons who have chosen to not get vaccinated against Covid-19. Younger people are now filling the hospital beds. |
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Thank goodness you are here, blue ash.
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I am NOT a medical person, but early in this pandemic, many blogs and youtube accounts were spreading inaccurate and incomplete and false information from some physicians. Inaccurate information was rampant on Facebook. It became for some a banner to wave to prove your independence and freedom and not get vaccinated. I wish that all readers would consider calling their doctor this morning or going to an urgent care to see about being vaccinated if they have not yet received it. |
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All information I have read does not substantiate your accusation. In Kids, The Risk Of COVID-19 And The Flu Are Similar — But The Risk Perception Isn't : NPR The link above is from May, but obviously you have more current information about yet another “Big Lie” Please enlighten us all. Thank you |
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Young people are now getting the Delta Varient and are now dying. One of the main reasons people don’t get the shots is the false information out there. Also, even people who had it with no symptoms are getting long haulers and are sometimes left with issues with their heart, lung and brain. They can also, get Covid again.
Finally people who are vaccinated can carry enough of this mutation now to give it to others. |
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““I think we better be careful that we’re not cavalier, in thinking that children are completely immune to the deleterious effects.” |
Your chart is one source and the percentages are very close. Lower socioeconomic populations have less access to medical care/vaccine. The problem with Covid 19 is not how or where it started but rather the poor/incompletent reponse by the previous US administration. We were warned about the possibility of a pandemic years ago.
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Great post. Thanks for the info.
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Thank you so much I was beginning to miss my fake news I mean this thread!
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The chart the OP posted reports that 36% of Black folks have received at least one dose, thus 64% have not. As they represent 12% of the US population, per the same KFF report, that means that unvaccinated Blacks are 7.6% of the US population. 41% of whites have not received any shots. Whites are 61% of the US population. Do the math. Unvaccinated whites are 25% of the US population. Now tell me again how "the majority of the unvaccinated are in the black population." The title of this thread is Who are the Naughty antivaxxer refusenicks? Using the KFF data and a population of 333 million in the US there are about 83 million unvaccinated whites and 25 million unvaccinated Blacks. Keep in mind that the KFF data is NOT age adjusted. They simply looked at total numbers. As it is well known that the average age of both Black and Hispanic Americans is lower than whites because of life expectancy and birth rates, it is worth adding that far fewer people of color have qualified to be vaccinated. The median age for whites per Pew analysis of census data in 2018 was 44. The median is the age where half the people are older and half younger. The median for Blacks is 34 and Hispanics is 30. Far more whites have been eligible for vaccination for longer periods as the age criteria have liberalized. Again, I will point out that the best predictor of being a naughty refusenik is not ethnicity. |
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That's why we are sticking to restaurants and bars where we are safe!!!!
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Some of us choose to not be a lab rat for the largest social experiment ever done.
I mean, its not like our own government would ever perform any experiments on its own citizens. Would it ? I can think of at least 6 times since the mid 1800's. Funny (not ha, ha) how judgmental and arrogant people are. I don't care if you wear a mask and I don't care if you get vaccinated. You do you. |
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I don't see any mention of Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine. Why are the CDC, WHO, Bill Gates, etc. so against it when it's so very effective. Because it's cheap. Follow the money sheeple.
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Yes. Ignorance. Once you educate the ignorant they are no longer ignorant. But STUPID is unfixable You can bribe them with many t lhings but like the lemming, when the leader goes over the cliff so do the followers.
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Your statement "when you get kids used to being controlled, it's easier to control them when they become adults", sadly is very true. |
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So on the one hand we have people in a major University environment, supposedly intelligent people with as much access to information as anyone, choosing not to get vaccinated. On the other hand we have people here, supposedly intelligent people with as much access to information as anyone, maintaining that getting vaccinated should as much as be made mandatory. So--can we deduce from that, that the ONLY real difference in this debate is which data we choose to believe? If so, this is really nothing more than a ping-pong match. |
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Are you also aware of this? Fraudulent PCR Tests EXPOSED! CDC Quietly Withdraws Emergency Use Authorization Due to Inability to Differentiate COVID-19 & Influenza. Guess we know now why for 2 years the flu completely disappeared. Too many people are being indoctrinated by the news media, do your research. |
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OUR STORY (condensed): My wife and I were exposed to covid19 on January 26 and both tested positive. I had a runny nose and a two-hour fever of 100.4. I feel fine and still have the antibodies after six months. My wife had a cough for two-days and was lethargic. She still tested positive for covid19 after five months. Last month she took the five day treatment of hydroxychloroquine with zinc and now no longer tests positive for covid19 and has her energy back. OUR RESEARCH (condensed): Tons of research is available pro-vaccine, not so much for anti-vaccine, with many sites blocked. Several sources we found were Media – Americas Frontline Doctors, www.thecovidblog.com, and the confusing government adverse effects reporting website https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html. I have lost the source, but about 40% of employees at three government health agencies (including Fauchi's) have supposedly refused to get the vaccine. CONCLUSION: We will never take any vaccine or drug that is experimental, especially where the mfg. is immune from liability AND THE LONG TERM SIDE-EFFECTS ARE UNKNOWN. Also, we both have the antibodies and test negative for covid19. My doctor has told me not to consider the vaccine as long as I have the antibodies and am on chemo for multiple myeloma. I do not wish to get in to a long diatribe about the vaccine, but do your own research, be informed and educated and make the best decision for you and your family. Ignore those who try to build themselves up by tearing others down who do not agree with them. I hope you found this helpful. Good luck and stay heathy! |
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There should be no problem finding "anti-vaccine" web sites---just google conspiracy theories, so despite your user name, I have to question whether you are a medical doctor or just happen to have 1st and middle initials of "d" and "r" Lastly, I am always skeptical of any post that advises people to "do their own research" Most people don't have the background in science or medicine to understand the literature nor make a reasonable conclusion. That's why we have EXPERTS to evaluate the data and advise the decision makers and inform the public. We can't have millions of "Dr. Googles" out there making their own decisions based on their "own research" And as far as some of the treatments you mentioned, they are basically unproven. And even if they have some utility, they are after the fact treatments for active COVID. Much better to prevent it in the first place. It's pretty amazing that anti-vaxxers like to state the vaccine isn't "FDA" approved, even though it has emergency approval in this emergency, yet point to a whole array of alternative "treatments" that will never have FDA approval. |
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There is no such thing as perfect solutions to most problems and yet we demand perfection. The vaccines. I recall waking up 5;30 AM 4-5x in an attempt to win the lottery and get an appointment. I won once got in the final line and was told all appointments were taken. We finally got an appointment, went to the closed Sears store off 441. Truth, they did a great job for this huge mass vaccine delivery. I asked and was told they were doing 8,000 injections a day. Best I could tell they had about 20 stations. I'm sure the people were rotated but, imagine the hand fatigue from that assembly line delivery. All were both professional and pleasant a tough combination. I did not hear any gossip about it. I did, see hear some Hispanics, heard some Italian, some ??????? Russian and some Yiddish. I saw almost no Blacks on line to receive vaccines. I understand freedom of choice but most do not accept the freedom of risk that goes with your right to choose. Those who do not take the vaccine, will be expecting medical care whether they have paid for insurance or can pay for that care or not. Responsibility for the choices you make is a strange concept for too many. |
How so many threads on here are somehow twisted to become a discussion of a persons skin color is truly amazing.
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Full reference: CDC Confirms That Viral Loads In Vaccinated People With Delta May Be Infectious, So Masks Are Necessary |
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The virus is not making a decision about who it will attack/infect. It is opportunistic. Race plays a part in whether a person has to go to work in close proximity to others. The race has a part in determining who can get off work to go get a vaccination. Race plays a part, the virus simply infects whoever happens to be vulnerable when the virus happens to be there. I hope this is what you meant because your post seems to imply something else. If I misunderstood your intent, I appologize. |
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