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jimjamuser 08-26-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1994311)
Sydney Harris's quote needs to be broadcast far and wide.

I agree with the content of both posts #46 and #47. Both are very informative and important statements!

Heyitsrick 08-26-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1994637)
When you are told that everything is someone elses fault…..either by their birthplace, skin color, or whatever you choose (you do not seem to need anything much else in the way of “evidence” or “proof”)…..well, that is how you see everything. It obviously also clears your conscience.

No fault ever comes your way…..there is always a “yeah but”

You've got to love it when someone unknowingly annunciates a personal blind spot.

drducat 08-26-2021 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1994653)

The emails have no relationship of truth with the arrived at conclusions OR the headlines.

This entire line of attempted defamation has been debunked so many times over and over, and the entire line of these continuing assaults since May of 2020 (not sure about the date, but close).

It is yet another untruth wrapped in headlines that only certain folks will fall for.

Freedom Watch is a legal organization...run by attorneys reporting findings from filed documents.

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1994395)
Very true. If you don't listen to or read the news you are not informed; if you do listen to or read the news you are misinformed.
CNN and their ilk, slant everything to the left, Fox, and their ilk, slant everything to the right. Which is why I rely on my own common sense.

And that leaves the traditional channels pretty much in the middle - like NBC, CBS, and ABC. Please, everyone.......work hard to cut through the "fog of chaos" to arrive at clarity for yourself and others in one's orbit. We ALL live in interesting and difficult times, so much is asked of us.

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FUSSY LADY (Post 1994491)
You are so right, the Chinese don't care about their own people, they were restricting them on how many children each family could have. They are evil people in China!

The one-child policy of China was a long time ago. It tried to balance the amount of resources (like food and financial strength) with an ultra-fast growing population. Some might call that good and not evil?

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 1994517)
China has more of its own problems like only 12 % renewable clean water . China has to import clean water , you can’t drink from the faucet. Ground is polluted.
air pollution. Can you believe we saved the Chinese from being taken over by Japan ? I believe most Chinese want their freedom.
Any war with them and you could see majority of their military surrender.

I hope that is correct!

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1994528)
Where it started does not matter, how it stops is the only important issue.
Why do you feel getting angry is going to help anyone? It seems to me you are trying to create more hate and that is the last thing this country needs.

IMHO blaming China for the US's problems is a clever design to DEFLECT attention and blame away from RUSSIA - which has a greater interest in seeing the US FAIL than China because of our great trade with China and virtually none with RUSSIA.

tvbound 08-26-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1994750)
IMHO blaming China for the US's problems is a clever design to DEFLECT attention and blame away from RUSSIA - which has a greater interest in seeing the US FAIL than China because of our great trade with China and virtually none with RUSSIA.

Correct. Russia is laughing their butt's off right now and (rightfully) patting themselves on the back.

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1994550)
It's just sad, that so many people need to find someone, or some entity, to hate or blame for everything.

Yes, there are so many examples of that in History. I tend to believe that it can be explained by the anthropological survival instinct built up in early man. Your tribe may live in a cave and for years be happy and relatively non-violent. Then along comes another tribe that wants your hunting grounds and wants your cave. The ongoing competition requires that to survive YOU must distinguish your tribe from the "OTHER" tribe. Modern nations can create a false NATIONALISM by pitting the larger, dominant tribe (or subculture of that nation) against the smaller, less dominant tribe within that nation.

Arctic Fox 08-26-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherry8bal (Post 1994549)
Of course, this virus was generated by the Chinese in their own labs and then purposely released to the world. That's what they do.

Hmmm. I think we might need some examples - proven ones would be an added bonus.

Number 10 GI 08-26-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1994734)
The one-child policy of China was a long time ago. It tried to balance the amount of resources (like food and financial strength) with an ultra-fast growing population. Some might call that good and not evil?

It wasn't that many years ago. Do you not consider forced abortion evil? Do you not consider forced re-education evil? Do you not consider dissidents that disappear not evil? People are strongly encouraged to keep tabs on their neighbors and report to the government if they are criticizing the government, is that not evil?

Number 10 GI 08-26-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1994766)
Yes, there are so many examples of that in History. I tend to believe that it can be explained by the anthropological survival instinct built up in early man. Your tribe may live in a cave and for years be happy and relatively non-violent. Then along comes another tribe that wants your hunting grounds and wants your cave. The ongoing competition requires that to survive YOU must distinguish your tribe from the "OTHER" tribe. Modern nations can create a false NATIONALISM by pitting the larger, dominant tribe (or subculture of that nation) against the smaller, less dominant tribe within that nation.

Sounds just like what is happening in this country now. We're being divided into groups by race, religion, political agenda, age, sex or whatever constitutes sex now, and financial status.

jimjamuser 08-26-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1994793)
It wasn't that many years ago. Do you not consider forced abortion evil? Do you not consider forced re-education evil? Do you not consider dissidents that disappear not evil? People are strongly encouraged to keep tabs on their neighbors and report to the government if they are criticizing the government, is that not evil?

Yes, it is true that China has a reputation for being pure and ultimate evil. I, personally, only know one person who ACTUALLY lived there. it was about 20 years ago. He taught English to Chinese students. He enjoyed his time there and liked his students very much. I know for a fact that he is not "EVIL". In Russia, China, Mexico, the US, and other countries there are often differences between the Federal Government and the common people, with the common people being the more likable and less "EVIL". Statistically, my friend's experience is an N of 1 and 29 years old. It is well known that in Mexico, the people in the small towns and low populated regions are happy and friendly - but the big cities are filled with drug gangs, murderers, and kidnappers. So, is Mexico good or EVIL? Probably both. I do not have enough experience with China to make a realistic judgment about it.

Heytubes 08-26-2021 03:48 PM

I remember after coming home from Nam, a bud I served with volunteered to go to an Army fort in Maryland for experimental drugs…was never the same afterwards. At least he got an early out. Beware of your friendly government.

Number 10 GI 08-27-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1994817)
Yes, it is true that China has a reputation for being pure and ultimate evil. I, personally, only know one person who ACTUALLY lived there. it was about 20 years ago. He taught English to Chinese students. He enjoyed his time there and liked his students very much. I know for a fact that he is not "EVIL". In Russia, China, Mexico, the US, and other countries there are often differences between the Federal Government and the common people, with the common people being the more likable and less "EVIL". Statistically, my friend's experience is an N of 1 and 29 years old. It is well known that in Mexico, the people in the small towns and low populated regions are happy and friendly - but the big cities are filled with drug gangs, murderers, and kidnappers. So, is Mexico good or EVIL? Probably both. I do not have enough experience with China to make a realistic judgment about it.

I need to be more clear about what I'm calling evil. Too many governments are run by evil people and commit evil acts. I didn't do a very good job of explaining that the Chinese government is run by evil people as is in North Korea, Cuba, and most of the middle east. I didn't mean that all of the citizenry was evil.
During my time in the Army I had the opportunity to interact with the average citizen in foreign countries and for the most part they are good people. They have the same concerns in life as we do. Health, family, finances, etc.

jimjamuser 08-28-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1994637)
When you are told that everything is someone elses fault…..either by their birthplace, skin color, or whatever you choose (you do not seem to need anything much else in the way of “evidence” or “proof”)…..well, that is how you see everything. It obviously also clears your conscience.

No fault ever comes your way…..there is always a “yeah but”

I think that blaming China (which the CIA said was a fool's errand) is one of several ways to DIVERT the subconscious GUILT that vaccine-hesitant people feel guilty about. They know that 600,000 plus of their fellow Americans are dead. And maybe 400,000 did NOT need to die IF the anti-vaccine movement was not so strong.

Today, most Medical and Scientific professionals are stating that, "this is a Pandemic of the UNvaccinated". So, that is touching the heartstrings of the religious and empathetic vaccine-hesitant everywhere. Mandates started at the US military, Airlines, large government organizations, and private corporations will, hopefully, cause a snowball effect which will lower vaccine-hesitantcy to a point where CV cases drop. Hopefully, this happens all over Florida and SOON because the new variants are NOT stopping!

tvbound 08-28-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1995735)
I think that blaming China (which the CIA said was a fool's errand) is one of several ways to DIVERT the subconscious GUILT that vaccine-hesitant people feel guilty about. They know that 600,000 plus of their fellow Americans are dead. And maybe 400,000 did NOT need to die IF the anti-vaccine movement was not so strong.

Today, most Medical and Scientific professionals are stating that, "this is a Pandemic of the UNvaccinated". So, that is touching the heartstrings of the religious and empathetic vaccine-hesitant everywhere. Mandates started at the US military, Airlines, large government organizations, and private corporations will, hopefully, cause a snowball effect which will lower vaccine-hesitantcy to a point where CV cases drop. Hopefully, this happens all over Florida and SOON because the new variants are NOT stopping!

"this is a Pandemic of the UNvaccinated"


Truth!

jimjamuser 08-28-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1995152)
I need to be more clear about what I'm calling evil. Too many governments are run by evil people and commit evil acts. I didn't do a very good job of explaining that the Chinese government is run by evil people as is in North Korea, Cuba, and most of the middle east. I didn't mean that all of the citizenry was evil.
During my time in the Army I had the opportunity to interact with the average citizen in foreign countries and for the most part they are good people. They have the same concerns in life as we do. Health, family, finances, etc.

I agree with the contents of this post.

Escape Artist 08-28-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1995737)
"this is a Pandemic of the UNvaccinated"


Truth!

Don't marginalize and condemn others for something that is still unclear and uncertain.

jimjamuser 08-28-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1995772)
Don't marginalize and condemn others for something that is still unclear and uncertain.

That is a common statement by Doctors that are tired and suffering burnout from long shifts in ICUs throughout the South and other parts of the US. No one can LEGITIMATELY dispute that statement. Reality is hard to avoid with just "happy talk". These Doctors have seen too much DEATH and suffering to be mocked or called liars or whatever is going on?


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