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02-18-2021 10:47 AM |
Are closed minds changing our entire culture in the USA ?
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Originally Posted by dhdallas
(Post 1903416)
Myself, my family, my neighbors, and millions of others have already had COVID and are actively (or sometimes called naturally) immune. A person who is now immune cannot get or give the disease. The COVID virus is NOT one of those diseases in which an immune person can be a carrier. Therefore we do not need to get vaccinated or wear a mask. Even if I did not previously have had COVID I would still refuse a vaccine for the reasons that follow.
Many people will argue that active or natural immunity is different from vaccinated immunity. Here is what the CDC says; “Active immunity results when exposure to a disease organism triggers the immune system to produce antibodies to that disease. Exposure to the disease organism can occur through infection with the actual disease (resulting in natural immunity), or introduction of a killed or weakened form of the disease organism through vaccination (vaccine-induced immunity). Either way, if an immune person comes into contact with that disease in the future, their immune system will recognize it and immediately produce the antibodies needed to fight it.”
The WHO (World Health Organization) had this to say. “Vaccines train our immune systems to create proteins that fight disease, known as ‘antibodies’, just as would happen when we are exposed to a disease . Even people without symptoms develop an immune response.”
Who else should consider abstaining from the vaccination? “People with underlying health conditions that weaken their immune systems (such as cancer or HIV) or who have severe allergies to some vaccine components may not be able to get vaccinated.” - WHO
“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)
Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes
These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.
The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.
So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.
My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC
I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.
For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!
Unfortunately I have found that logical arguments backed by proven science (not “may happen” or “might not be”) fall on deaf ears. It is similar to having an argument over religion. The true believers have blind faith and no person will ever sway their belief no matter how sound the opposing view.
My previously published views on COVID have stirred such animosity that people have gone so far as to wish me “homeless” and that my children “die of cancer”. I have also been called a “quack”, a “know-it-all”, “part of the problem”, a “disgrace”, “brainwashed by Tr_ _p” (of course) and the list goes on and on.
I refuse to be bullied into silence when I see so many people who have been paralyzed with irrational fear and making decisions about their health based on largely one-sided views without fully examining all sides of the issue. Human beings are capable of independent thought and reason. We are not sheep or lemmings.
I am a retired RN, EMT-Paramedic with an ASN degree graduating summa cum laude, a member of 2 national honor societies, with past American Heart Association certifications in Advanced Cardiac Life Support and Pediatric Advanced Life Support. I also am a certified coroner after receiving my training at the Pennsylvania State Police Academy and served as the Chief Deputy Coroner for a county in Pennsylvania. I worked during the onset of AIDS/HIV, H1N1, MRSA & Necrotizing Fasciitis (flesh eating bacteria) and never have I seen such a level of misinformation and a bombardment of articles that focus on rare atypical cases and the hypothetical.
I only include this professional background information to distinguish myself from authors with absolutely no background in healthcare whatsoever and who state unproven theories often with no scientific support. I do not claim to be an expert, just experienced. As the actor Walter Brennan was often quoted from an old television show, The Guns of Will Sonnett; “No brag, just fact".
- David H. Dallas, RN-ASN, EMT-P, retired
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"Something" has been gradually happening in our country relating to "civil" discussion and intolerance not only of the opinions of others, but a general (and dangerous) trend against considering even cited and evidence backed information such as you presented. As you remarked, even stating your credentials, not in an attempt to inflate your own ego, but simply to lead credence to your experience and ability to analyze data and communicate information which is there for all to see in the "science". This tendency to suppress information such as you dug out and posted, only serves to enrage many people who (for some reason?) seem to feel any opposing factual material, opposing studies, or experience with various medications including vaccines (your example of small pox vaccine was spot on, but while many have died (we lost a distant cousin), others will point to the lives that were saved. To me it's not so much the "facts" because we simply don't have them and will not know for some time if each individual made a "right" choice or a "wrong" choice, it is indeed a casino ! The horrors of thalidomide, the polio vaccine tragedy are only two examples.
The real point is not accepting your post as something to look at more deeply, to explore and analyze for ones self, but the over all pattern of rejecting any challenge to one's opinion (and it's relatively easy to spot those posts that come from a purely emotional reaction, a feeling that because he/she holds a different view, such as "this vaccine is well tested and perfectly safe", they not just reject any evidence to the contrary, no, not at all, to me the real danger is that such people do not want ANY contrary evidence, not just opinion but actual evidence such as you cited, to interfere with what they believe. To reject in a discussion, and then give your
evidence, is a mark of the best of discussion/learning. But the growing trend to not just dismiss, but name call (you "bragger" about your education and experience), or "know it all". These are the types of replies that make one wonder what is happening to "us", to this democracy, to rational discourse ? I have spent years in a university environment, once an exemplary example of a democratic republic, unbridled freedom to present all the evidence even if was not what one "wished" it would show.
But colleagues confirm that is no longer possible, contrary views are dismissed out of hand and regardless of evidence and examples, just as many are maligned and "trashed" here, on a "friendly" (compared to Facebook), small, community, social bulletin board. And as you pointed out, it's a no win situation. If one attempts to back up their legitimacy by giving their education or experience in a subject, they are immediately labeled a "braggart or ego maniac", if they do not lend legitimacy, they are of course accused to having no back ground or experience in the topic !
I am much more concerned about this frightening tendency to "fight" fiercely against any evidence to the contrary on any subject, and to diminish and shame anyone who tries to bring opposing evidence to the attention of all and allow EACH individual the FREEDOM to make what boils down to a personal decision after all.
I have stated this before, the more fearful a person becomes the more they will oppose anyone or any thing that challenges the comfort zone they have established to protect themselves. What are we doing to each other and what will the end product of all this be ? Not good I fear ! |
