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kimgarwel12@gmail.com 06-25-2020 06:14 AM

We moved here from Madison a month ago and I'm absolutely sick over the vandalism and destruction that's occured in my beautiful city. That the governor and mayor have done nothing to stem any of it is even worse, yet not surprising. I recently watched a video by a young black man who was one of the original founders of BLM, who has left the organization because in his words, "the movement has been compromised" by terrorists and is no longer what BLM started out or was intended to be. He cautioned that they're agenda is to "cause civil war." With the state of Wisconsin still quite shut down with the virus, the university is mostly empty and many of these "protesters" are brought in to wreak their havoc. A peaceful protest happened weeks ago at the Capitol when the Wisconsinites Against Quarantine staged a protest in response to the governor's Badger Bounce-Back Plan to reopen the state after shut down with the virus. Thousands of protesters were there, on foot and in cars surrounding the Capitol and roads leading up to it, many armed in open carry. There was NO violence, NO assaults, No vandalism or destruction. So to say protesters per se are the problem isn't necessarily true. Those perpetuating the destruction recently are there for that reason alone, of all colors and races. And yes, this stopped being about George Floyd long ago. I was in a bit of an argument yesterday with someone who insists it's everyone's first amendment right to freedom of speech (protest), but there is NO right to destroy, vandalize, assault people, etc. That's simply criminal and deserves the stiffest punishment of the law, providing the law is enforced. It may very well come to armed militia taking care of business if our elected leaders won't act to protect our homes and lives.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1791384)
These people go back to the"weather underground" of the 1960's, all they care about is the total destruction of the system, so in can be rebuilt in their Marxist utopia minds

They have the gaul to try and rip down the statue of Grant who besides defeating the confederacy, also used our military to destroy the KKK in Ga.

Its a shame most people of color don't know the true history of the democratic party--the KKK was founded to disenfranchise blacks from voting in the south--Woodrow Wilson--endorsed the KKK

The same goes for American Jews, who don't know the true history of the democratic party--Roosevelt was surrounded by anti-semites, denied admission of the St'Louis to the U.S. and the publisher of the NY Times-Sulzberger denied mentioning the holocaust, even tough he was given proof of its existence--

Useful idiots are the first people to visit re-education camps after a real revolution

:oops:

REAL history includes the "Southern Strategy" and the mass migration of racists and bigots...who switched parties. :ohdear:

For those interested in the truth, folks can educate themselves...by watching this award-winning documentary on NETFLIX.


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Bay Kid 06-25-2020 06:26 AM

Still protesting/destroying in Richmond, VA. Everyday.

mamamia54 06-25-2020 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1791370)
It's morphing into a Marxist slow-motion revolution. BLM is the thought leader in this effort whereas Antifa is the street muscle.

"At some point the conservative side is going to reach a boiling point and respond kinetically. Shaun King, BLM leader, said it's now time to remove statues of the "White Jesus and his European Mother" from American churches. That will be the spark where even the timid will consider their 2nd amendment options.

This has started already. A friend of mine told me in NY where she is there is a beautiful grotto. That’s a place with statues and usually beautiful surroundings. Some have small waterfalls and very serene place. People usually go there to pray and some even say be healed. Well, last week “animals” (I call them animals because these people aren’t even human, savages more like it) went and bashed and smashed all the statues there. They also left a big note which stated “God never
did anything for black people” I don’t know about you, nor do I push religion on anyone, but this is over the top. I hate hearing any place of worship whether it be my religion or not is being targeted and desecrated. It’s very sad because instead of making people sympathetic to their cause, it’s starting to have the opposite effect. What’s going on has nothing to do with BLM. I am white but I can’t imagine any intelligent black person agreeing with what he is seeing right now. This is not the way to have change in our country. This can only make more divide and take away any real progress. I, for one, feel it’s time to step up and stop this nonsense once and for all.

Luvs21putt 06-25-2020 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1791311)
So are you saying it's only the white nationals that are throwing bricks and frozen water bottles at police, and looting and burning down businesses? Or are you saying that a few white nationals start the attack and then a bunch of otherwise peaceful, good-intentioned people are lured into joining in the attack?

I guess then it couldn't be that some of the young people who attend the protest are really there to stir the pot, loot so they can get a bunch of free stuff, and burn down businesses?

Thank you because my eyes hurt from rolling them at the white nationalist theory. Major denial. This is all a result of coddling these adult children when they threw a temper tantrum. No one did anything so they just kept going further with it.

jbrown132 06-25-2020 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1791294)
There exist people who are NOT protesters at all - who show up at protests and use them as an "opportunity" to wreak havoc and cause trouble. Some of this segment of the population do this intentionally to make people think it's the protesters doing it. THOSE particular people are actually serving the "other side" of the protest. In other words - it'd be white nationalists committing violence, during BLM peaceful protests. Wearing masks, gloves, hoodies - you can't tell who these criminals are. And it's just SO easy to say "those BLM protesters are nothing but trouble."

When in fact, it isn't BLM protesters at all doing it. It's people who want to make the BLM look bad. And they're doing a bang-up job of it too, judging from some of the threads on this forum alone. Comments in social media are actually much worse because many of those posters don't even pretend to be civilized.

This is what happens when you allow the inmates to run the asylum.

jbrown132 06-25-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1791294)
There exist people who are NOT protesters at all - who show up at protests and use them as an "opportunity" to wreak havoc and cause trouble. Some of this segment of the population do this intentionally to make people think it's the protesters doing it. THOSE particular people are actually serving the "other side" of the protest. In other words - it'd be white nationalists committing violence, during BLM peaceful protests. Wearing masks, gloves, hoodies - you can't tell who these criminals are. And it's just SO easy to say "those BLM protesters are nothing but trouble."

When in fact, it isn't BLM protesters at all doing it. It's people who want to make the BLM look bad. And they're doing a bang-up job of it too, judging from some of the threads on this forum alone. Comments in social media are actually much worse because many of those posters don't even pretend to be civilized.

Then BLM peaceful protesters should do someone about it if they don’t want their cause hijacked.

GOLFER54 06-25-2020 06:39 AM

I couldn’t agree more with you. All these criminal acts have absolutely nothing to do with GEORGE FLOYD or bringing about changes towards black people. Explain to me how arson, looting, chaos, violence and murder has anything to do with improving our nation. In my opinion, as soon as these rioting scumbags burnt down the police station, the military should have been called in immediately to quell this destruction.

GoodLife 06-25-2020 06:40 AM

Violent protesters burn, loot, destroy

Peaceful protesters causing a huge spike in covid 19 cases

It's a win/win situation for the rest of us

Look at several thousand protesters on a Portland bridge, lying inches from each other

Doesn't matter if they have cloth masks or not, infected individuals spread tiny virus particles just by breathing. These particles are not stopped by cloth masks.

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riley2011 06-25-2020 06:41 AM

So why aren’t they being stopped?

Cadybell 06-25-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1791326)
Please show proof that white nationalists are instigating violence in "peaceful BLM protests" Even the SPLC doesn't think that, and you can bet if they could they would.

Don't know what riots you have watched, some of the crowds are almost 100% black, and some of them are not peaceful. There are white Antifa crews working the riots, and many have been arrested. There are also lots of white kids rioting. They seem to specialize in bring down statues.

It is a known fact that BLM and Antifa are Marxist organizations. The founder of BLM said that their goal is to remove Trump (capitalism) and Transform US into a Marxist country (sound familiar?). She also said on one of the major networks that they are Marxists. The universities have been indoctrinating our youth with this nonsense for decades. Trump’s policies work to improve economic conditions for all Americans. That is a threat to their revolution so it must be destroyed. The virus shutdowns and the upcoming election were/are the perfect storm for their attempts to remove our history and remake America. Wake up everyone! The mainstream media is complicit in all this because they despise our President so much. Over half of the country is being duped by their fake and incomplete reporting. This is only going to get worse. And if Democrats manage to win in November they will be beholden to these radicals and the country as we know it is lost.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 06:45 AM

LOL :1rotfl:

The hateful white conspiracy theorists, have brought out an old playbook...of trying to blame Soros for everything.
:oops:

Right-Wing Conspiracists Pull From Old Playbook: Blame George Soros For Riots


It does make it easier, if white supremacists can put a face on an "enemy."

Never mind if its false or there's absolutely no proof, as that takes a back seat...to having a target of the rage & hate toward minorities.
:ohdear:

GoodLife 06-25-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1791486)
LOL :1rotfl:

The hateful white conspiracy theorists, have brought out an old playbook...of trying to blame Soros for everything.
:oops:

Right-Wing Conspiracists Pull From Old Playbook: Blame George Soros For Riots


It does make it easier, if white supremacists can put a face on an "enemy."

Never mind if its false or there's absolutely no proof, as that takes a back seat...to having a target of the rage & hate toward minorities.
:ohdear:

And on the other hand, we have people trying to blame the riots and destruction on white supremacists when there is no evidence for it.

“I have not seen any clear evidence that white supremacists or militiamen are masking up and going out to burn and loot,” Howard Graves, a research analyst at the SPLC

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 06:50 AM

If you already have a certain viewpoint/anger/hatred/bias/prejudice towards blacks & other minorities, then the decades long effort by the work of the billionaire Koch Brothers...will just fuel your confirmation bias. :ohdear:

GoodLife 06-25-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1791499)
If you already have a certain viewpoint/anger/hatred/bias/prejudice towards blacks & other minorities, then the decades long effort by the work of the billionaire Koch Brothers...will just fuel your confirmation bias. :ohdear:

If you already have a certain viewpoint/anger/hatred/bias/prejudice towards whites, then the decades long effort by the work of billionaire Soros....will just fuel your confirmation bias. :wave:


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