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ALadysMom 06-25-2020 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1791697)
I was responding to Chatbrat's claim and opinion based on that claim. I don't think Chatbrat is a thug. I also don't think Netflix is a thug. I also don't feel that the Obamas or Susan Rice are thugs. I also don't think any of these people/entities are trying to promote socialism.

So I'm confused as to why you are responding to my post with your comment. It doesn't really seem to pertain to anything I said.

Also, I'm a little concerned as to your use of the term "socialism." I'm thinking you might be confusing it with something else. Socialism is a catch-phrase that encompasses several different systems under one umbrella term.

Our medicaid and medicare and social security system and welfare and assistance to the poor are all based on concepts of socialism. They are not "socialist" implementations per se, but that is the system the government used in order to create these programs in the first place. I don't see that as a bad thing.

Conversely, China's methodology of "all business owned by the government" and a singular dictator in charge of deciding who gets to benefit from it, is also borrowed from the socialism system - and we see how much fun THAT is.

The word "socialism," in other words, does not inherently mean something negative nor positive. It is a system that, if it worked and was implemented all at once, would benefit pretty much everyone. Unfortunately it is never implemented all at once, and pieces of it are typically implemented by dictators who have no interest in benefiting everyone. And so socialism, as a whole, is not 100% successful anywhere in the world.

But as concepts go, it's really not a bad one, not something to fear. Dictatorship, fascism, that's something to fear. When you combine fascism with socialism you get China, Laos, and Cuba.
Please do some research

rmd2 06-25-2020 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1791346)
Since the actual words I posted were obviously invisible the last time I posted, I am quoting my own post, and bolding and underlining for emphasis.

SOME people..are something.
And THOSE particular people..are something.

Which also means that "SOME OTHER people might also be the same thing but in this particular post, I'm singling out this specific group, that I have chosen to call SOME."
SOME people did SOME things.

Stu from NYC 06-25-2020 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1791701)
Please do some research
Socialism is government ownership of means of production. When there is no incentive to earn a profit no incentive to be efficient or improve what you make or do you do not have an efficiently functioning economy.

As a wise man once said Capitalism is a terrible system but better than every other system ever created.

Nothing wrong with govt preventing capitalism to run uncontrolled but nothing better than capitalism.

We became the #1 economy thru capitalism.

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 09:41 AM
FBI Director Christopher Wray’s Remarks at Press Conference Regarding Civil Unrest in Wake of George Floyd’s Death

June 4, 2020

“In recent days, the violence, threat to life, and destruction of property that we’ve seen in some parts of the country jeopardizes the rights and safety of all citizens, including peaceful demonstrators. It has to stop. We’re seeing people who are exploiting this situation to pursue violent, extremist agendas—anarchists like Antifa and other agitators. These individuals have set out to sow discord and upheaval, rather than join in the righteous pursuit of equality and justice. And by driving us apart, they are.”

~source: fbi.gov

Bikeracer2009 06-25-2020 09:43 AM
"Momentum is an organization that helps other organizers - organize. They give them the tools to do what they already are planning to do, by teaching them effective strategies. It's like any other organizational or motivational or public relations company."

It says right there on their own website that BLM is one of the organizations they have worked with.

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1791682)
In answer to the OP's question.

THIS is why they're protesting. :ohdear:


Three Cops Fired
What they say is not the whole truth & nothing but the truth.

If the thugs can USE racism to get rid of the cops, then it would be whole lot easier for them to do what they really want.

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1791723)
"Momentum is an organization that helps other organizers - organize. They give them the tools to do what they already are planning to do, by teaching them effective strategies. It's like any other organizational or motivational or public relations company."

It says right there on their own website that BLM is one of the organizations they have worked with.
BLM has been funded and enabled by big-money so they are able to get a lot of training to facilitate their goals which are oddly alignEd very well with the thugs’ goals.

turk3531 06-25-2020 10:12 AM
Where are the police, or, as is the case in Seattle, the liberal leadership has told law enforcement to stand down and not to hurt the snowflakes?

Scorpyo 06-25-2020 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1791328)
You obviously are not seeing what I see. I think if the members of BLM had jobs there would not be so many protests. I have had it with the protests.
I personally take offense to your post! No not the part where you responded to the other post. I take offense to “Go Steelers”. Just because they’re better than the Jets you don’t have to constantly remind me. That’s just cruel.

ColdNoMore 06-25-2020 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1791728)
What they say is not the whole truth & nothing but the truth.

If the thugs can USE racism to get rid of the cops, then it would be whole lot easier for them to do what they really want.

I'm confused.

Who is it that made these 3 "thug" cops... racist? :oops:

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by turk3531 (Post 1791744)
Where are the police, or, as is the case in Seattle, the liberal leadership has told law enforcement to stand down and not to hurt the snowflakes?
Many conservative-dominated communities have also allowed the riots, looting and destruction. Why that is being allowed is unclear. Certainly the leaders don’t want to hurt peaceful protesters. They must also fear of the media’s inevitable use of imagery to further harm the community. Many are sympathetic (as most Americans are) with the need to promote equal justice. In short, they fear perception more than they fear an existential threat. They are wrong. This would become clear if they tell everyone the truth...all of it.

The media is also completely failing the American people by not producIng independent content. The mainstream news producers have been spoon-fed content for so long they are completely dysfunctional. The media—or even the old town crier— played an essential role by asking tough questions and by using their access and platform to hold leaders to account. I think of a well-functioning news media like the ferets of society (if you know anything about those curiosity-driven critters) They should be reporting ALL aspects of this and turning over the rocks to show us what is really going on. We should ALL be angry at their failure.

kathy1516 06-25-2020 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1791281)
Last night in Madison, WI a group of 200 to 300 protesters brought down statues on the grounds of the Capitol.

One of the statues decapitated and dragged into a lake was of Civil War Col. Hans Christian Heg. Heg was an anti-slavery activist and leader of an anti-slave catcher militia in Wisconsin who fought for the Union.

If BLM protesters are vandalizing statues of slave owners, obviously Madison protesters need a history lesson.

Also, Democratic WI State Sen. Tim Carpenter, was assaulted after taking a cellphone video of protesters. "Punched/kicked in the head, neck, ribs," Carpenter tweeted around 4 a.m. "Maybe concussion, socked in left eye is little blurry, sore neck & ribs. 8-10 people attacked me. Innocent people are going to get killed. Stop violence now Plz!"

I'm trying to figure out how any of this is an attempt to further the Black Lives Matter Movement.
These are uneducated bums with no goals or any desire for a better future for themselves. They are spoiled, have no responsibility, no accountability for their actions and most of all NO RESPECT for authority. I saw the president of BLM on TV in an interview yesterday. He spoke like a street thug, looked like a street thug, is a street thug. He unequivocally stated that if they didn’t get what they want, they would burn society down. They demean the blacks that are honest and truly are trying to make a difference. The only hope for these thugs is bringing back the draft. For both make and female. They need to learn respect for authority, they need discipline, and learn how to function as a team.
God help us. This anarchy needs to stop!

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 10:50 AM
Have you seen ANY lengthy feature field reports showing all of the destruction, interviewing those who have been hurt, interviewing city leaders who apparently ordered the police to stand-down, reporting the actual costs, and reporting the backgrounds, identities and goal-statements of the thugs? Why not?

The media invested a lot of time and money to reporting on wars overseas. This one is right here.

GoodLife 06-25-2020 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1791778)
Have you seen ANY lengthy feature field reports showing all of the destruction, interviewing those who have been hurt, interviewing city leaders who apparently ordered the police to stand-down, reporting the actual costs, and reporting the backgrounds, identities and goal-statements of the thugs? Why not?

The media invested a lot of time and money to reporting on wars overseas. This one is right here.
Yep, the media tries hard not to show the damage riots have caused which then allows them to say the rioters are only a miniscule percentage of "peaceful protesters" They sure have caused a lot of damage for a miniscule group.

ALadysMom 06-25-2020 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1791766)

I'm confused.

Who is it that made these 3 "thug" cops... racist? :oops:
thinking beyond the statements is needed.

Being sucked in to defending their side because of the awful imagery was only Step One in their goal of divide & conquer.


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