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The Caretaker 07-05-2020 09:43 AM

Trump cart parade
 
Well let’s see you have 1 CRAZY lady with A Black Lives Matter shirt on screaming F...You just a few feet from peoples face. Got so bad another lady had to try to pull her back. THETE Is Excuse for saying that but when you are harassed to the point of no return then things are said You can’t take back. This out of control lady is just as guilty as the man who retaliated to verbal abuse also. At our age we all should be ashamed to act this way SHAME SHAME SHAME. NEITHER REPRESENT THE VILLAGE PEOPLE WELL. SUCH AN EMBARRASSMENT!!!!

Scorpyo 07-05-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1797594)
I have never ever heard anyone say "white power". I honestly didn't know it was wrong to say. Who gets to decide what is naughty and what is nice???

Stupid, stupid question. Santa Claus of course.

graciegirl 07-05-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponygirl (Post 1798001)
Every day I read TOTV and am truly disturbed. Today there is talk of “they” and “them” and what is wrong with the words White Power”, that’s the same as Girl Scout Power. REALLY? I read the daily never ending threads filled with nasty language and negative stereotypes either due to implicit bias or overt racism.

And for what reason? Is it to satisfy the need to bully or the false need to protect your white life style or just to gossip in half-truths like mean 13 year old girls. It is appalling behavior and the most appalling was a recent post using the n-word disguised by using two number sixes instead of two letter g s. And the Moderator did not remove.

It is an embarrassment to be part of this community. See the recent article abt the golf cart rally (can't post link) and the article yesterday in the Washington Post, that the white power video was a glimpse into the politics in the Villages (can't post link).

Not sure what everyone is afraid of. I see people protecting their singular white lifestyle and it is sickening. The better option is to enjoy the beautiful town and make it welcoming and inclusive.

My husband and I bought a house in the Villages 4 years ago and planned to move here soon. We are fearful to see if there is a drop in housing prices after the negative golf cart parade videos were viewed nationwide. From the above articles, take a look at the negative comments abt the villages to see how the rest of the country feels abt the village lifestyle and whether they would want to be part of it.

If someone wants to be mad, they will find something to be mad about. Nothing wrong with Twinkie Power, Or Power to the kitty-cat lovers. Or Girl Scout Power. A lot of really mad people seem to find things to get even more upset about. I think it unfair to visit their anger on a bunch of people who are just probably the nicest folks you could find anywhere. Very few of us Villagers have ever owed anyone a debt and not paid it. Most of us have never, ever, ever been in jail. An awful lot of us, especially those past the seventies mark, made a financial success of their lives and started out damn close to poor if not poor, by anyone's standards. Most people don't care what color you are but do care if you break the law. They won't like you at all if you shop lift or steal cars, or use someone else's credit card. Simply because they don't do stuff like that. They would go without and probably go hungry before they took something that wasn't theirs.

I am really tired of being attacked when I don't think I have done much of anything except be born white. I think that all this stink is being maneuvered into the forefront of news because of what year this is and what is happening soon.

I say Uncle.

I don't like the aspersions cast. I may not be a wonderful soul, but I am like most people here, I am doing the best I can and I wouldn't deliberately hurt anyone no matter what color they are. EVER.

Scorpyo 07-05-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1798172)
If someone wants to be mad, they will find something to be mad about. Nothing wrong with Twinkie Power, Or Power to the kitty-cat lovers. Or Girl Scout Power. A lot of really mad people seem to find things to get even more upset about. I think it unfair to visit their anger on a bunch of people who are just probably the nicest folks you could find anywhere. Very few of us Villagers have ever owed anyone a debt and not paid it. Most of us have never, ever, ever been in jail. An awful lot of us, especially those past the seventies mark, made a financial success of their lives and started out damn close to poor if not poor, by anyone's standards. Most people don't care what color you are but do care if you break the law. They won't like you at all if you shop lift or steal cars, or use someone else's credit card. Simply because they don't do stuff like that. They would go without and probably go hungry before they took something that wasn't theirs.

I am really tired of being attacked when I don't think I have done much of anything except be born white. I think that all this stink is being maneuvered into the forefront of news because of what year this is and what is happening soon.

I say Uncle.

I don't like the aspersions cast. I may not be a wonderful soul, but I am like most people here, I am doing the best I can and I wouldn't deliberately hurt anyone no matter what color they are. EVER.

Everything you said is spot on and most applies to me - born South Bronx on welfare. The fact is most of the current situation is born out of a crisis and you know what that means - Never let a good crisis go to waste. So, you haven't seen the last of this.

lwmilo 07-05-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry L Elliott (Post 1797569)
LoisR
One simple question to you....would you object if someone had yelled “black power”.
My objection to your post has nothing to do with the comment. My objection is that you object to the man saying “white power”. Where are his equal rights?
To paraphrase a quote...I do not support what he said but I will defend to the death his right to say it.
After all....it is the 4th of July.
Have a good one.

Atta girl....Stand up and speak your mind..In totally agreement..
Born and raisd in the Bronx N.Y. , went an all boys High School in the South Bronx, where I was a minority,no special treatment, nor privledged. Our feelings are moulded, shaped by our experiences in life , some good some not so good..
Namvet 1969

The Caretaker 07-05-2020 10:00 AM

ment to say There is no excuse!!

The Caretaker 07-05-2020 10:02 AM

Trump cart parade
 
Well let’s see you have 1 CRAZY lady with A Black Lives Matter shirt on screaming F...You just a few feet from peoples face. Got so bad another lady had to try to pull her back. THETE Is Excuse for saying that but when you are harassed to the point of no return then things are said You can’t take back. This out of control lady is just as guilty as the man who retaliated to verbal abuse also. At our age we all should be ashamed to act this way SHAME SHAME SHAME. NEITHER REPRESENT THE VILLAGE PEOPLE WELL. SUCH AN EMBARRASSMENT!!!!

The Caretaker 07-05-2020 10:02 AM

should say there is no excuse

MandoMan 07-05-2020 10:09 AM

Actually, if you watch the earliest video and listen carefully, you will notice that the man who yells “white power” does so in response to someone shouting that he is a racist. For all I know, he meant his response as a joke, even though it wasn’t funny. I wasn’t there, but I wonder if the person yelling “racist” wasn’t also yelling it at a number of those in the gold-cart parade, perhaps in hope of eliciting just such a response. Unfortunately, the news media has chosen to emphasize only the guy who yells “white power” because it fits their agenda and is meant to harm one candidate. I wonder how the man who yelled “white power” feels now. He has seriously harmed the reputation of The Villages. He may have cost his candidate hundreds or even thousands of votes. For all I know, his words may have accidentally cost his candidate the election! His words turned a fun parade ugly, but as I’ve said, perhaps he was goaded, and it was the protestors who turned it ugly before that.

There are people who watch a lot of one-sided television and get the idea that areas with a lot of minority people are a lot more dangerous than they really are. You wouldn’t go to Ocala without a gun? Really? That’s an unnecessary amount of paranoia (some paranoia may be called for). It reminds me of those many people around the world who imagine that in America, everyone carries guns and shoots people. We know it’s not that way. Television news tends to be highly alarmist because that keeps people watching. Don’t imagine that it is always accurate or true. It’s not, no matter what station you prefer.


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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1797495)
By now, probably most, if not all The Villages has heard of or seen the video of the man yelling “White Power” at the recent golf cart ride. As inappropriate as that statement was, I started to think about why anyone would even use it. I then thought of several conversations I have had in the recent past with Villagers when we shared original homesteads and I mentioned I was from NY. On three separate times, I was asked, “What was it like living with “them?” “Where you ever attacked by “them?” “Weren’t you afraid to live with “them” so close? On two other times I mentioned we had to go into either Leesburg or Wildwood for an errand and we were asked what type of gun do we carry? The people asking the questions stated that they never go into “those areas” without a pistol.
That got me to wonder where, or how and why does one develop thoughts and fears like this? As humans, we are not born with a genetic predisposition to be a racist, bigot, or hater. As humans, like all other animals, our intelligence (the ability to incorporate and use information) is developed from combinations of our experiences with our environment, including family, our living experiences, including schools and religious associations, and interactions with other people and processes.
So, why would a person who has never met one of “them” be so fearful that they must carry a weapon because they assume they will be in danger? Why would a person who has never met with one of “them” believe they are different than we are? What was so devoid in a person’s development and life experiences that they must yell “White Power?” The questions are easy to formulate, the answers are not. I invite your thoughts.


OhioBuckeye 07-05-2020 10:09 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1797495)
By now, probably most, if not all The Villages has heard of or seen the video of the man yelling “White Power” at the recent golf cart ride. As inappropriate as that statement was, I started to think about why anyone would even use it. I then thought of several conversations I have had in the recent past with Villagers when we shared original homesteads and I mentioned I was from NY. On three separate times, I was asked, “What was it like living with “them?” “Where you ever attacked by “them?” “Weren’t you afraid to live with “them” so close? On two other times I mentioned we had to go into either Leesburg or Wildwood for an errand and we were asked what type of gun do we carry? The people asking the questions stated that they never go into “those areas” without a pistol.
That got me to wonder where, or how and why does one develop thoughts and fears like this? As humans, we are not born with a genetic predisposition to be a racist, bigot, or hater. As humans, like all other animals, our intelligence (the ability to incorporate and use information) is developed from combinations of our experiences with our environment, including family, our living experiences, including schools and religious associations, and interactions with other people and processes.
So, why would a person who has never met one of “them” be so fearful that they must carry a weapon because they assume they will be in danger? Why would a person who has never met with one of “them” believe they are different than we are? What was so devoid in a person’s development and life experiences that they must yell “White Power?” The questions are easy to formulate, the answers are not. I invite your thoughts.

Must of been a KKK member!

croughwell 07-05-2020 10:18 AM

Some people are realists and others aren't live the bubble!

rrb48310 07-05-2020 10:36 AM

Run Forest Run
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1797570)
The whole thing seems to be about people acting stupidly.

Stupid is as stupid does

dewilson58 07-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by croughwell (Post 1798203)
Some people are realists and others aren't live the bubble!






:what:

newgirl 07-05-2020 10:41 AM

If you find answers please share with me. I have never understood racism , judging someone on how much melatonin is in their skin or what language they speak, like you believe you were born the best even though you were created exactly the same way, have the same internal organs including brains that are identical, the same blood ? Everyone of us will be dead someday too.. So how does anyone really believe they have the right to judge another? Or how anyone else loves? I just don’t get it.

ficoguy 07-05-2020 10:42 AM

I slowed it down and I heard "white powDer" - you know, the talcum powder we need to avoid the chafing and itching while playing golf or pickleball in these humid conditions....


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