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thevillagernie 02-13-2025 06:00 AM

faucet's
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

could'nt you requested a larger size then reduce it at the faucet ?

Switter 02-13-2025 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

If I'm not mistaken there is a federal regulation for faucet flow rates. I have typically bought Moen faucets in the past because you can easily remove the restrictor without hacking the faucet (in case you gotta return it for some reason).

Janie123 02-13-2025 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

We had a recirc pump until we switched to a tankless water heater. However, we have a soaking tub, 50 gal capacity next to the shower and we installed an 8 gpm waterfall faucet or it would take about 30 minutes to fill the tub with the 1.8 gpm and then the first 15 minutes of water would have cooled off. So… when we turn the shower on, we just flip the tub on a full hot and we have hot water at the shower head in just a few seconds. We do the same with the faucets if hot water is needed which is not very often.

lawgolfer 02-13-2025 08:48 AM

Watts Pump
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

Removing the restrictors in the new fixtures will help. In the shower, it will provide a much improved experience.

However, the time to deliver hot water at any fixture in the house is best improved by the addition of a Watts recirculating pump installed at the outlet of the hot water heater.

The Watts uses an ingenious system of continuously moving hot water through the hot pipes and returning it to the water heater via the cold water line. The system works by reason of a small manifold mounted at the fixture furtherest from the water heater. In the manifold are two valves. When the cold side of all the fixtures in the house are closed, the hot water circulates in a closed loop using the cold line as the return. When the cold water at any fixture is opened the valve in the manifold closes and the hot water does not circulate.

With the Watts pump in place, you will have hot water at all the fixtures in a matter of a few seconds vs the 50 seconds plus other people on this thread have reported. The only downside is that the water from the cold side of a fixture will not be completely cold until all the hot water has been cleared from the line. I consider that a minor inconvenience for the pleasure of having nearly instant hot water at the fixtures, particularly the shower.

The Watts costs approximately $225 at HD or Lowes. It's an easy DIY. If you can't DIY, any "handyman" will be able to do the job in less than 2 hours.

Topspinmo 02-13-2025 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillagernie (Post 2409112)
could'nt you requested a larger size then reduce it at the faucet ?

On this style faucet Looks like water restricted at faucet aerator which was glued together. I had different manufacturer one that could be easily disassembled and green plate with tiny hole drilled in was the restriction. I could have drill hole bigger and may try that later? I just removed it and got maximum flow which remove the aeration for soft splash. If I get too much splashing water out of sink I will experiment with green plate.

Topspinmo 02-13-2025 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Switter (Post 2409122)
If I'm not mistaken there is a federal regulation for faucet flow rates. I have typically bought Moen faucets in the past because you can easily remove the restrictor without hacking the faucet (in case you gotta return it for some reason).

Yes you are correct I think it’s 2.2 GPM.

gmdds 02-13-2025 09:20 AM

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Here is an easy solution…I have it advertised on Nextdoor.

JRcorvette 02-13-2025 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

We have a circulating pump with a timer so that in the morning we get close to instant hot water where we need it.

nn0wheremann 02-13-2025 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

You can usually remove the flow restrictor with a needle nose pliers. Best done before installation, but if it really bothers you, then do it.

FredJacobs 02-13-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

If you install a recirculating pump on your water heater, you can get hot water in about 5 seconds. The pump constantly circulates hot water through your system so the hot water is available practically on demand. The down side is that you may have to wait 30 seconds for cold water.

MarshBendLover 02-13-2025 11:12 AM

Recirc pump:

A small home may benefit, because basically you are heating all the hot lines in the home 24/7 unless you install the timer. The timer would kick on at 4am and off at 8am for the increase of use during morning showers. Also the cold lines get warm, so you run those a little longer to get cold water. It's really a preference, but a pump doesn't solve the initial issue of flow. The federal government decided that you will only use a certain amount of water per minute, just like water-saver (low flow) toilets, you only get 1.6g for #2 and 0.8 for #1. And usually you flush twice for #2.

However, you have to weigh the good with the bad with a pump. For example, my other home had copper lines from 96'. The hot copper lines were 187' feet total to all faucets. I also ran two water heaters in parallel. The loss of heat from the copper acting as a huge radiator 24/7 would have been a bad investment. When I upgraded to pex a few years ago, the loss may have balanced out with the cost of the pump had I gotten one. I also took into account the continuous use of a hot water heater(s) running and it's life expectancy. I chose and still chose not to install a pump in the large house.

Here in the village, I would prefer my house to be at 65 degrees in the summer and I pay for it gladly. I never really pay any attention to timing of hot water, I just pay attention to flow rate which is solved by removing the federal government from being involved in my bathroom needs.

Ignatz 02-14-2025 06:20 AM

The very first thing I did when we bought our home last year was to remove the restrictor in the master shower.

Of course the increased water flow exposed a partially blocked floor drain that the warranty department had to fix (a big glop of tile grout was in the drain pipe).

There’s nothing like a good long hot shower with strong water flow!

MikeN 02-14-2025 06:48 AM

Couple of things you can do. Remove the filter on the replacement faucet. It restricts water flow. Other thing you can do is increase the temperature of your water system. Most are set at 120. Increase it to 130 degrees

Rocksnap 02-14-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2408881)
For me, I changed out bathroom faucet when I replaced Accor hoses. Now I have to wait even longer for hot water. The new faucet has flow rate of 1.2 GPM which takes for ever to get hot water even close to water heater.

Also the hose connection different size, 1/2” vs 3/8” (not big deal). I could imagine how long it take to get to furthest faucet. Which I timed over 30 seconds with old delta that flow I guessing twice as much (can’t find spec on old one).

So if plan in replacement look at flow rate if you have to wait for hot water.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Fo...4mgJEGi4&gQT=1

Perhaps the option of having a simple hot water recirculating system that you could activate ahead of time when you want to use it? I’ve installed a thermostatically controlled crossover line at the furthest sink fixture from the water heater. And a light duty recirculating pump on the hot water line on a timer. When activated, hot water will be at the ready.

CybrSage 02-14-2025 08:13 AM

Put the tub on hot as well, much shorter wait.
Plus, turn up the water temp to 130°F. Doing that greatly reduced the time for hot water to arrive.


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