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villagetinker 05-19-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by davidh0430 (Post 1947019)
How did you know the Blatter was bad? I have a slight noise in the master bathroom when the water is running anywhere in the house. Dave

Please read through all of the replies, there were several suggestions to determine if the expansion tank has failed.

Topspinmo 05-24-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom52 (Post 1946363)
Over 40 years I have owned 4 houses previous to moving to TV. None of the hot water systems had an expansion tank installed. I never noticed any variations in water pressure or premature failure of the components. I would think if there was excess pressure build up sufficient to cause damage it would pop the pressure relief valve on the hot water heater. A Google search didn't convince me as to the need of an expansion tank.

It’s Southern thing and well water thing. Only time I seen expansion takes used was on well water until I got down here.

retiredguy123 05-25-2021 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1950208)
It’s Southern thing and well water thing. Only time I seen expansion takes used was on well water until I got down here.

Expansion tanks are required by almost all plumbing codes where the water system is a closed system with a backflow preventer. It's pretty much a universal requirement. Not just in the South.

JP 05-25-2021 09:52 AM

Expansion tanks are unnecessary and the reasons for them are silly code or not.

Topspinmo 05-25-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1950228)
Expansion tanks are required by almost all plumbing codes where the water system is a closed system with a backflow preventer. It's pretty much a universal requirement. Not just in the South.

Not where I’ve been.

elevatorman 05-26-2021 07:23 AM

1985
 
Around 1985 Municipalities (water companies) started installing water meters with back flow preventers in new homes. This was done to prevent contamination of the Municipal water supply. Doing this created a closed system for each home with this type of meter. Prior to this the excess pressure would not build in your home, the excess pressure would go into the entire Municipal system. Now it can't get past the water meter. So now it builds in your home. Then the water is turned on and the pressure is relieved. Water off pressure builds again. Plumbing systems are built to withstand this. So what's the big deal? The problem is not with the pipes in the system, but with the weak points, the hoses and plastic tubing. ie. washing machine, ice maker supply line, toilet supply. Constant expansion and contraction will weaken them until they burst. This is why I believe in expansion tanks.

retiredguy123 05-26-2021 07:37 AM

About 12 years ago, I had an old water heater replaced in Virginia without an expansion tank. Within a few days, I noticed a small amount of water in the drain pan. It was because the new relief valve was occasionally tripping and releasing water. That means that the water pressure was exceeding 150 psi. The contractor said that the relief valve on the old water heater was totally clogged with sediment, so it did not function at all. The contractor installed an expansion tank, and I never had the problem again.


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