Hence the problem . They are mowing the sh@t on these courses when the conditions ARE NOT warranted!

Having that practice STOPPED will be a very quick way to almost immediately improve the condition of these courses .

For that to happen , supervision needs to take place . Obviously, there is nor has there been any <real> supervision or real accountability to guard against incompetency…..

A couple of weeks ago I was playing Sandhill, there were 3 large tractors ( tractors) moving grass that was short ( very short ) and already brown! Why weren’t they doing something other than beating up on dried up grass.

Contract calls for mowing the grass 3X per week, they mow 3X per week. Did you ever try to talk to one of the mower operators? We're not talking brain surgeons, here.

Shouldnt the folks who manage the upkeep of the courses tell their employees what they are supposed to do?

I personally think there should be 3/4/5 real agronomist, superintendents who oversee the course conditions. And even that number may not be enough.

Thank you Brian. Thanks for your time, effort, knowledge & sharing. It is much appreciated.

I have read all of the responses through #35. There is a discussion about adding people to supervise and assess conditions but no discussion on the cost and how it would be paid. Since the developer does not own the courses north of SR44 where much of the angst is centered, it appears that we will have multiple groups involved in making decisions about what to do and how much to spend. It strikes me as an approach that is fraught with problems. If my comments above are correct, my question is how do you secure a long-term, organized and coordinated approach that adequately funds the plan year-in and year-out in order to obtain the desired results?

Good comment, given the increase in the amenity fee is capped at CPI.

And there lies the problem . They are as incompetent as the ones riding the mowers ….

There is no accountability and their only answer is to name some or something else ! Does El Niño come to mind ???

Quality maintenance is a zero sum game. The money that's spent on maintenance, saves money from the increased budget item to renovated golf courses on a 10-12 year cycle.

Justin Timberlake may have something to do with that... The Bastid! :1rotfl:

That is why some changes should be in order

I believe the developer owns all of the championship courses

The thread and discussion is about the Executive Courses, which are not owned by the Developer.

The Developer owns all the Championship courses and some of the Executive courses south of 44.

Met her when she was briefly at college in Boston area before going back to LA. Yes....they, I mean she....was as advertised!