There are a lot of different strains of Bermuda grass and they have varying characteristics, strengths and weaknesses, as well as tolerating temperature changes, differently. The greens in TV utilize at least 2 or 3 different varieties.

Tifton
 

Yeah, I'm sorta familiar with Tifton and their Bermudagrass research, but not so much with other grass types. "Tifdwarf" even comes to mind. Have only experienced bent a few times. No real clue about the overseeding grasses, though.

Would love to know what type is still present on Redfish Run and whether it is different from what was intended to be there. . .

Plant identification? There’s an app for that—actually several! - Landscaping

10 Best Free Plant Identification Apps For iOS & Android (2023)

I think accuracy with "grass" is probably in the 40% - 50% category and I doubt any of the apps can identify different varieties of otherwise similar grass.

Or try this:

Identifying Grass Types | Golf Course Lawn Store

Lawn grasses
 

That last link was great. Identifying Grass Types | Golf Course Lawn Store I now know a lot more than I did before. Doubt I'll ever be able to ID a grass blade cut to an eighth of an inch, though. :-)

Stop hitting in the fairway and hit one in the rough, you'll find longer grass! :a20:

I didn’t see Carl Spackler’s favorite grass - a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia.

I wake up every morning and look in the mirror and see this old guy, looking back. I ride around TV and see old people, everywhere. Then I think about it and remember, we were the cutting edge of the drug culture. We'll always have that going for us, which is nice. You have the Tee Judge Smails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48G7Y0VWW4

As the old saying goes, "If you remember the 60's, you weren't there!"

Hybrid
 

OMG. Almost failed to google that. Had forgotten who Carl was. :-) Thanks.

Really needs attention from a professional golf course maintenance co
 

I think you are correct. These greens are being mis-managed and improperly maintained. They are basically mud with sparse areas of grass. Are they being watered too much?? Are they being re-seeded? It's really terrible

I played Briarwood last Saturday and the greens were perfection, I kid you not. Haven't seen greens like that since I belonged to a private club in Mass. No idea how you can go from conditions like that to scorched earth greens a few miles away at Bonita, Redfish, Bogart, Bacall. And then south of 466A Sweetgum has great greens. It just doesn't make sense

Love Sweetgum. Beautiful course and nice conditions. On the other hand, playing Pimlico is a waste of time. It needs to be closed until they can fix the terrible greens.

I wonder--has any thought been given to artificial greens for the executive courses? Seems as if they'd solve a multitude of problems including very low maintenance needs, no watering necessary, hold up very well under heavy traffic, not as affected by specific seasons as natural grass, etc. etc. Also much less expensive overall than natural grass greens, and when replacement is needed it is a matter of maybe a day's work vs. preparing the ground, seeding, watering, trimming, etc. as is the case for natural grass greens, which can take weeks or even months. Win-win: better looking and playing greens with far less maintenance over the long haul which would free up money for other maintenance needs on the course. Additionally playing characteristics of the greens would be consistent course-to-course; much the better situation than what exists today, where poor upkeep or other variables affecting green conditions on courses adjoining one another can vary considerably, or even significantly varying conditions green-to-green on the same course.

The purists and top-tier golfers might object but what was true years and even decades ago as to playability (good for putting or driving but not both, among others) have pretty much disappeared, and to be honest, according to what I see, the vast majority of players on the executive courses are, to put it bluntly, hackers: folks to whom such objections would make very little difference, while the better players would still have natural grass greens on the championship courses.

Sure it does. Those courses were redone with the new proper turf and construction. Very easy explanation.

According to his interview last week, with one of the Developer's spokesmen, Mitch has upgraded his "Certificate". Now he claims he has a "Degree in Turf Management" from Penn State (as you said, the premier Turf Management school in the country, if not the world).

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1WWDaoUK_s)

Funny how his LinkedIn doesn't say he has a "Degree in Turf Management" from Penn State. Maybe he forgot to include that? Or perhaps "misspoke" in the interview?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchell...nger-74a7426a/

Hey Mitch! Give me a call. I'll meet you at Sumter Landing & buy you lunch. You show me a letter from Penn State that you have a Degree in Turf Management, I'll give you $500 for your time.