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DonH57 06-28-2022 08:39 AM

I'm curious how many out every 100 new residents attended the Good Golf class that I know one time happened once a month. Do they still do this class? It covered golf etiquette and how to make tee times. Judging by the number of ball marks, unfilled divots, unraked bunkers, bunker rake placement, torn cup edges, and golf carts to close to the greens I'd say 1 out of a hundred.

Topspinmo 06-28-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2110874)
We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.


Put fork on the other end of ball retriever.

MartinSE 06-28-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 2110941)
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MICHAEL G-Can you spell the word interpret?

"GOLFER" do you understand spelling checkers? Sometimes their help is less helpful than others. But, grammar police are almost never helpful - just rude or insulting.

rsimpson 06-28-2022 12:47 PM

what D&%# means
 
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2110540)
Can you interrupt what D&%# means

Darn, for sensitive earn, or what a fish says when it bumps its head.

rsimpson 06-28-2022 12:55 PM

Bend Over
 
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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 2110900)
How do they manage to tee up a ball but can't fix a ball mark?

Outstanding Point. In addition, I have a hard time believing they can hit the ball high/far enough to make a ball mark, if they are that old and feeble.

rsimpson 06-28-2022 01:03 PM

After aeration - Disagree
 
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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2110874)
We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.

I have to challenge you on 'doing more damage'. Leveling out the hole edges for better mowing and maintenance can't hurt. Also - If they can put a tee in the ground, they can fix a ball mark.

rsimpson 06-28-2022 01:09 PM

Mangrove Practice
 
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2110571)
If you’re talking Mangrove, and you played in the morning, there’s a guy who goes out on Mangrove after the started leaves, and hits 15 or 20 balls onto every green, and doesn’t fix ANY ball marks .
I’ve been behind him a few times.
Said something to him once, but he ignored me.

I think you hit this one on the head. WAY too many ball marks on those greens for a few days of play. Most golfers I see roll the ball on the green. That guy needs a talking to!

Plinker 06-28-2022 01:51 PM

Here is another golf etiquette that is routinely ignored.
Let’s say you tee off and the ball flies 200 yards up the middle of the fairway (unlikely). Golfers should drive in the rough and then turn perpendicular to where their ball lies. Many simply drive all the way up the middle of the fairway until they reach the green without traveling in the rough. Driving in the rough is appropriate in order to save the integrity of the fairway. I have mentioned this to people I have been paired with but always falls on deaf ears. Many just don’t care.

JMintzer 06-28-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2111007)
"GOLFER" do you understand spelling checkers? Sometimes their help is less helpful than others. But, grammar police are almost never helpful - just rude or insulting.

Who commented on anyone's grammar?

DaleDivine 06-28-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1701 (Post 2110959)
And, unless you have a RA tag, keep your carts off the par 3 fairways.

No such thing as an RA tag... It is now called a CAP...
Course Access Pass...
:welcome: :welcome:

DaleDivine 06-28-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2110984)
I'm curious how many out every 100 new residents attended the Good Golf class that I know one time happened once a month. Do they still do this class? It covered golf etiquette and how to make tee times. Judging by the number of ball marks, unfilled divots, unraked bunkers, bunker rake placement, torn cup edges, and golf carts to close to the greens I'd say 1 out of a hundred.

I've been to it even though I have been golfing over 60 years.
Very informative class and I think ALL NEW GOLFERS SHOULD ATTEND...
They tell you how to properly fix ball marks, rake traps and how to put the rake back in the trap at a 90 degree angle, how to keep off another person's putting line, and to PLAY READY GOLF, among other good tips...
:bowdown::pray::bowdown:

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-28-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2110606)
They also toss their take out soda cups wherever they happen to be.

I hear another season of Squid Game is coming out, maybe we could have start shooters along the course and they just shoot them... survivors a the end of the year get free amenity fees for life... (that was a sarcastic joke, please don't shoot those people...)

Maybe just shoot them in the back with ink pellets.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-28-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2110929)
But you must respect the “Privileged” that play golf here. They pay their fee and others should fix things they screw up , repair their divots and rake the sand traps. Most are too lazy and can’t bend over , have you seen how the ruin the edge of the cups with their putters retrieving their ball.

They're not lazy. If they were truly lazy they wouldn't bother playing golf in the first place.

They are arrogant pretentious baistiches who are sure that rules apply to everyone else, and they really don't give a rat's arse if you don't like it.

tvbound 06-28-2022 05:24 PM

Playing often (exclusively "championship" courses) as a single walk-on, I am constantly amazed at the number of residents (at least they say they are) who don't even bother to make an effort to rake traps - much less fix ball marks or sand their massive divots. I've had more than a few silent rounds riding with someone, after mentioning that one would think a resident would have a sense of the courses being their own - and treat them better.

Stu from NYC 06-28-2022 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2111117)
They're not lazy. If they were truly lazy they wouldn't bother playing golf in the first place.

They are arrogant pretentious baistiches who are sure that rules apply to everyone else, and they really don't give a rat's arse if you don't like it.

But how do you really feel about golf?

alwann 06-28-2022 06:08 PM

Eddy Quet
 
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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2110507)
If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

Let's talk about etiquette and good manners.

Your shots lands in the middle of a bunker a half acre wide with a high lip. You're playing partners are on the green eyeballing you, and perhaps even putt out while waiting. Bad form from them. It takes two strokes for you to get out. The rake is way over there. Another group is pushing. The bunker is full of unranked soft spike foot prints from players who believe soft spikes tracks are okay. So you say to yourself, the heck with raking, we gotta move on.

Next, you've made the green in regulation. Calling it a green is an overstatement. It's more like astroturf laid over a waffle iron, and this is weeks after aeration. You can't tell your ball mark from the others. Maybe you fix one and hurry up because your partners are already walking off.

So few players I've seen play golf with a consideration for etiquette. But, sadly, if we all did, slow play is the likely result.:spoken:

villager7591 06-29-2022 06:38 AM

youtube how to fix a ball mark - Google Search

Larchap49 06-29-2022 07:27 AM

Divots repair
 
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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2110874)
We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.

I don't agree. If you can wind up and hit a golf ball I think you could repair a divot. I'll bet they bend over or squat if they drop their wallet or see a 5 dollar bill on the ground. That's just an excuse for laziness.

ThirdOfFive 06-29-2022 08:00 AM

"Teachable moment" has been mentioned earlier in this discussion.

There are undoubtedly a number of entitled folks who think etiquette is only for the other guy/gal, but in my opinion (and experience) I think the majority are well-intentioned but just don't understand what is expected of golfers. Yeah, I know they should make it a point to learn, but I can forgive ignorance if the willingness to learn is there.

Case in point: a few weeks back my wife and I were playing one of the executive courses (Chula Vista) when it started to rain. Mini-cloudburst, maybe 10 minutes tapering off to a slight drizzle. One group of 4 in front of us and an open hole ahead of them. They dove into their carts, which were parked on the path maybe 10 yards to the side of the green when the rain came (we were on the tee and had an umbrella). We went to the tee when the rain stopped; however they stayed parked in their carts even when they saw us on the tee. After a wait of maybe 5 minutes I walked on over to them and amiably asked them to move on to the next hole, mentioning that the proper etiquette is to clear the area adjacent to the green when the next group is teeing off. They were good sports about it, thanking me for telling them and then moving on.

Another example: I've seen people fixing ball marks who don't really know the proper procedure. Hearts are in the right place but the knowledge isn't there. Good video on YouTube: "How to fix a ball mark on the putting green".

sloanst 06-29-2022 12:49 PM

Starts with D, ends with n, and a similar pronunciation creates a man made reservoir.

justjim 06-29-2022 06:29 PM

Just to be fair…. Fixing ball marks on greens is a much bigger problem than just in The Villages. I recently played a wonderful golf course up north (with my son) and found ball marks galore on the greens that soon will host a Korn/Ferry PGA tour event. There were signs in the locker room to please fix ball marks, divots and rake traps. Free ball mark tools were for your taking. It’s a shame so many golfers practice poor golfing etiquette. Sign of the times I guess.

tsmall22204 06-30-2022 04:21 AM

You must be a super hero

srswans 07-06-2022 07:24 AM

How Would We Know?
 
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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2110507)
If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

I’m new to golfing and TV. I know about raking bunkers and fixing divots but never heard of ball marks on the green. I wouldn’t know to fix anyway.

Where do I learn? I saw post about “Good Golf” class, which I will take, but I didn’t know it existed.

What is RA/CAP?

The starting shack didn’t mention any of this when I played my first round - do they know it was my first round?

I do follow posted signage but have yet to see a sign about ball marks on the green. (Thanks for fixing my marks!)

Mrmean58 07-06-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2110655)
Or just attach those points to their ID so they can't make a tee time or walk up to the starter. They could still sneak on after hours, but I would simply make it a no trespassing zone after hours unless you have advance permission.

After hours play on the executive courses is already trespassing. I propose two changes. 1) everyone in the tee time reservation gets points added, add the peer pressure element. 2) anyone caught trespassing after hours on the exec courses has there golf privileges either suspended for 30 days or has their amenities fee doubled the next month. For country club courses, they are charged the AM rate.
No appeals allowed.

JMintzer 07-06-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2113271)
I’m new to golfing and TV. I know about raking bunkers and fixing divots but never heard of ball marks on the green. I wouldn’t know to fix anyway.

Where do I learn? I saw post about “Good Golf” class, which I will take, but I didn’t know it existed.

What is RA/CAP?

The starting shack didn’t mention any of this when I played my first round - do they know it was my first round?

I do follow posted signage but have yet to see a sign about ball marks on the green. (Thanks for fixing my marks!)

https://youtu.be/GuYXMn4tA10

Speedie 07-17-2022 04:52 AM

I wish I could make some, at least once in awhile

richs631 07-20-2022 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2110507)
If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

I would gladly fix all divots unfortunately I can’t hit the green 😂😂😂

wisbad1 07-20-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2110571)
If you’re talking Mangrove, and you played in the morning, there’s a guy who goes out on Mangrove after the started leaves, and hits 15 or 20 balls onto every green, and doesn’t fix ANY ball marks .
I’ve been behind him a few times.
Said something to him once, but he ignored me.

I saw that! What a jerk.

WingedFoot78 07-25-2022 06:56 AM

How much longer is this post going show up here?

JcHammer 07-25-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2110540)
Can you interrupt what D&%# means

Use your imagination. Anything with ( @*#% ) symbols is a cuss word... Da@& it

GpaVader 07-25-2022 01:02 PM

Back home we used to golf at course where we followed all of the High School tournaments, talk about never fixing ball marks, you'd think the coaches or instructors never taught them about it. It was nothing to fix at least 10 of them, just on the line of a putt you were trying.

I know I should have hit it closer to the hole but it was the best I could do....

rsimpson 07-25-2022 01:17 PM

Duration of posts
 
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Originally Posted by WingedFoot78 (Post 2118744)
How much longer is this post going show up here?

Must be as people still reply or react, they keep the post active and near the top search screens?

dreamweaver2634 07-26-2022 08:16 AM

Ball marks on the greens
 
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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2110507)
If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

Some of the players are so OBESE that they can't bend over to fix them.


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