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How do we stop the addition of Pitch and Putt courses?

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Old 01-22-2023, 04:35 PM
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You have to consider the hazards of putting an executive course that close to the freeway. The fairways are a lot longer on an Executive course and you really have to belt that ball out there to get to the green. If that ball went awry you might hit someone on the freeway accidently. So in lieu of putting up great big nets to protect the freeway drivers the developer gets to save land and build more houses.

When they start developing the land farther away from the freeway I'm sure they will add more executive courses south of 44.
This is the EXACT opposite…. More executives are close to the turnpike or highways so they dont have to put houses near there.

I bet 10% of the residents of The Villages can hit ANY club in their bag more than 200 yards.
So a 130 yard hole, you only need a 70 yard buffer to any road.
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They built Southern Oaks next to the turnpike. You could hit any club and hit a car on the turnpike.
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Complete BS
Absolutely correct. I could probably hit the turnpike, but I'd have to aim directly for it and hit it at least 280. It's a lot further away than it looks.
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They were reviewing the design of Southern Oaks, and the FLA DOT was fine with errant golf balls landing on the windshield of trucks and cars do 75 MPH.
Uh huh, yeah, right---sure they were.
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This is the EXACT opposite…. More executives are close to the turnpike or highways so they dont have to put houses near there.

I bet 10% of the residents of The Villages can hit ANY club in their bag more than 200 yards.
So a 130 yard hole, you only need a 70 yard buffer to any road.
Agree---and those of us who can hit it much longer are highly unlikely to hit the turnpike. Having played Southern Oaks at least 20 times, it's pretty hard to hit it out of bounds, and from there you have 150-250 yds until you could hit the roadway. Not going to happen.
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When you bought your home were you told you would have a new executive course next to your home?
I was not told that. Next time read the fine lines and you will not be surprised.
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Lets see the 'Pitch & Putts' are cheaper to create, run and smaller so more homes can be built. So what about all this is confusing. The family wants as much $$ as they can get.
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Lets see the 'Pitch & Putts' are cheaper to create, run and smaller so more homes can be built. So what about all this is confusing. The family wants as much $$ as they can get.
Isn’t maximizing profit, literally, the purpose of operating a business?
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Lets see the 'Pitch & Putts' are cheaper to create, run and smaller so more homes can be built. So what about all this is confusing. The family wants as much $$ as they can get.
Here a year and already anti developer. Why do people move here because of what the developer has created, what this place has to offer, and then start bitching about it/them?
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:16 PM
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Pitch and Putt courses offer a chance for people to play golf who would not otherwise play. Working at MarshView P&P ... I see it everyday. But I also see avid golfers who take the short game seriously and work to perfect their chipping/pitching and putting.
Yes... we need more courses.... period. All courses Jan - Apr are very busy.

There a number of course planned south of Monarch Grove down toward Eastpark town center .... houses are the priority.
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Agree---and those of us who can hit it much longer are highly unlikely to hit the turnpike. Having played Southern Oaks at least 20 times, it's pretty hard to hit it out of bounds, and from there you have 150-250 yds until you could hit the roadway. Not going to happen.
Exactly, if you have the club head speed to hit the ball 250, you have a good swing, and the ball is in the fairway.
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Three new championship courses, (two 18’s and one 27), six executives, one additional pitch and putt and a golf academy.

Continuing The Dream: Volume 15

Please don't hold your breathe while you're waiting for them.
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Old 01-22-2023, 09:04 PM
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Me and my wife love the Pitch n Putt courses. I hope they do build more of them. Most of my friends that play also have really enjoyed playing them, and the fact that its easy to get tee times makes them even better in my opinion.
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Also, there is the obvious need for less water, which helps keep the cost of water DOWN and helps out with the resident's budget.
........I may have missed a few others ?
... or speculated beyond reason.

With respect to water:

Golf Course Irrigation:

North of CR 466, golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater, storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas, and groundwater (some upper Floridan and some Lower Floridan, depending on the specific course).
South of CR 466 all golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater and lower Floridan groundwater.

(Village Community Development Districts.)

If they can't get rid of the reclaimed wastewater by watering the golf courses, what are they going to do with it?
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Basically, you don't stop it. The idea is that residents south of 44 are going to trend toward the younger range of retired seniors - like in their 50s. These younger folks don't want to WASTE the time going to a 18 hole longer type course. They realize that the longer course is BORING and of LITTLE exercise value so they would rather play the pitch and putt, which gives them the skilled shots and clubs while eliminating the driver and the 2 or whatever iron. And they may still have time to go to a weight room or run on a track for REAL EXERCISE.
...... THERE ARE many other advantages of pitch and putt.....starting with less BACK pain and injuries, which is a BIG bugaboo for the over-50 crowd that wants to pace themselves and avoid injury so that they can still be relatively PAIN free and "running, jumping, and playing" well into their 80s and up.
.......Pitch and Putt is less expensive than the alternative and leaves money left over to buy that antique vehicle that they always desired.
........Pitch and Putt is less frustrating and can be played less competitively (if desired) vs the longer alternative.
.........Pitch and Putt leaves more time at the POOL so they can work on their TAN and show off to their northern friends.
......Pitch and Putt has fewer heart attacks during the HEAT of the summer than the alternative.
.......Pitch and Putt has less grass area, therefore NEEDS less fertilizer that can run off into the close by lakes and pollute them. Also, there is the obvious need for less water, which helps keep the cost of water DOWN and helps out with the resident's budget.
........I may have missed a few others ?
Horse hockey! They are building 5-6 more Executive and 3 more Championship courses below 44.

To your other points... You know nothing about golf. Your comment that to play the pitch and putts, one must give up their "driver and the 2-iron" proves that. In reality, you would have to give up 9-10 of your (14) clubs to play.

Nor do you know anything about what "younger folks" want to do... When I play golf when I'm in MD, if I'm not in my usual 4-some, I'm ALWAYS playing with a 20-30 something kid...

My son in law is a golf fanatic and he's 35. He can't wait to visit next month so we can play golf... My wife thought golf was "boring" until she started playing. Now, she understands the skill and technique that goes into playing and she'll sit and watch a tournament on TV (when the weather is bad and we can't be outside playing golf or pickleball)... I suggest you actually try it. Maybe you'll learn something...

According to you:

Pickleball is bad... Too many injuries...
Golf is bad... Too many injuries (even though I regularly play with men in their 80's who can often kick my butt!)

I guess your solution is an e-bike, which gives minimal exercise and can get you killed...

All that grass on a golf course helps clear that dreaded CO2 you keep complaining about... The water used is reclaimed. The same water used in your sprinkler system...
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They built Southern Oaks next to the turnpike. You could hit any club and hit a car on the turnpike.
Maybe if you hit sideways off the tee and aimed at the turnpike, you "MIGHT" hit it...
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