Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2354674)

If the "report card" rates the course a "D" and says that an "Aggressive Maintenance Plan" is forthcoming ... why is it a surprise that it's not in good condition?

If you understand what they meant by "D" condition ...

& have been told an "Aggressive Maintenance Plan" is "to take effect" ...

What's the point of the original post? To show that the Rating System is accurate? Or are you arguing it should have been rated "D-" ?

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2354821)

Well, folks, something amazing has happened. Between the 1st post and the 15th post, the course miraculously transformed itself into much better conditions. Wow!

Now if we could get the lazies to quit using their ball retriever devices or the end of their putters to drag their balls out of the cups (most looks like with the flags still in) that would also be amazing.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2354875)

A rerun just for you:


Blah, blah... A friend who is an ardent, respectful golfer, after extensive back surgery has returned to the game. He was unable to reach into the bottom of the hole to retrieve his golf ball. He was extremely reluctant but we finally convinced him to use a "built for disabled" rubber suction cup on the end of the putter. It works beautifully and he is able to continue his passion, golfing.
He has never damaged a hole on the green using this method. I have witnessed healthy, limber golfers jamb the head of their putter into the hole to flop the ball out. Now that is a problem and may a bad back issue never be yours.

Ever hear of karma?

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2354918)

Well, I had extensive lower back surgery about 2 yrs. ago and never used any device to get the ball out the cup once 2 mos. of therapy ended.

Karma? Pfft. Just a made up word.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2354919)

All those other back surgical patients must not have gotten your memo that they should have your same outcome. And you’re in your eighties?

Karma, I think I may have the last laugh…

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2355228)

Nah, far from it, sport.

Originally Posted by jarodrig (Post 2354616)

I agree …. If those suction cup devices are used PROPERLY, no damage will occur. Apparently your friend knows how to ….

However, I have seen folks with those suction cups rake the hell out of the edge of the hole because they are not careful.

Any incident I see where that takes place , I bring it to that person whether I know them or not !

Best way I recommend is once the ball is in the hole, take the flag out leaving the ball in the hole …. THEN the ball can be lifted straight up from the center of the hole. That way, no part of the putter grip will come in contact with the edge of the hole .

I’m sure you know that. My intent is to let those who DON’T know how they can avoid causing damage….

Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 2358964)

Taking the flag out before the first put and leaving it out will avoid most damage to the hole. People think leaving the flag in speeds up play. Yeah, maybe by thirty seconds.