[Rainger99]

From my experience and the comments that I have seen, there is always a problem on the third hole at Volusia. It is a par 4 but many executive courses have par 4 holes and those don't seem to have the problem that Volusia does.

Does anyone have an explanation??

[justjim]

It’s a relative short par four, blind tee shot, and water.

[Mleeja]

It is a difficult hole. The entire fairway slopes right. Can not start the ball to far left due to trees all along the left side. It is likely your second shot is over water.

[Hardlyworking]

You can’t see the people in front of you until their second shot and they ring the bell.

[Tvflguy]

My fav par four on exec. But the players ahead… grrr

Yes blind tee shot with a severe downhill, and tilt of the fairway right towards lots of deep bushes. Out of bounds fence all along left. I’ve seen so many players hit 4-5++
times dribbling down the hill. Then cart path only, all the way to the green, slow- walk back to cart.
Some folks don’t ring the bell near the green and next group does not know if they can drive. Large pond on the right of the green with a tall drop off. And still the out of bounds on the left.

Etc etc.

So be it. Have fun with the challenge.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

You can’t see the people in front of you until their second shot and they ring the bell.

It's an exec---more likely their 5th or 6th shot

[Babubhat]

Far too difficult for the average golfer. No flat lies on second shot and water. Should have been a nice par 3 with drop zone after renovation to speed play up. I avoid unless first out

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Far too difficult for the average golfer. No flat lies on second shot and water. Should have been a nice par 3 with drop zone after renovation to speed play up. I avoid unless first out

What's the hurry? Relax and enjoy.

[Tvflguy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It's an exec---more likely their 5th or 6th shot

Oh boy, an elitist comment IMO. Exec golfers are beneath those Champ golfers…tsk tsk

I play both and my attitude, and “skill set”, does not change. Sometimes I do talk with folks about golf who tend to come across with a “tiered” attitude.

[Speedie]

How many can claim a hole in one on #3?

I am betting the answer is zero

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

Oh boy, an elitist comment IMO. Exec golfers are beneath those Champ golfers…tsk tsk

I play both and my attitude, and “skill set”, does not change. Sometimes I do talk with folks about golf who tend to come across with a “tiered” attitude.

Not elitist, just reality

[Babubhat]

I hit drive next to red stake. Had a side hill, downhill 30 angle for 2nd shot. What is someone to do with a long iron. Pond or in the dump and the fisherman spend 10 minutes looking for balls. Too Few flat areas in the landing area.

[Tvflguy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not elitist, just reality

Stick to Champ courses then.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by jayhawk

what's the hurry? Relax and enjoy.

can always try an eagle

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

Stick to Champ courses then.

I will continue to do so, but NOT for the reason put forth.

It's very simple, whether you are a beginner or have played for 50 years-------YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A PRO TO PLAY AT AN APPROPRIATE PACE AND KEEP UP WITH THE GROUP AHEAD OF YOU. Everyone starts somewhere, it's a great game and everyone should give it a try.
For the beginners: It's OK to pick up after 5 or 6 shots and put it on the green.
For the veterans: You are NOT Jordan Spieth, you do not need to line up your putt from 4 different angles, especially if you are putting for triple bogey. And please note not even a pro takes 5 practice swings before a full shot.

If that advice was followed, you probably wouldn't have a 1/2 hour back up on any hole.

To the person I'm responding to---stop being so adversarial, you're gaining nothing.