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DianeM 11-12-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brightspot01 (Post 778631)
Angie...I am shocked you are not more empathetic than this. It's not about people who care or not care. It's about allergies, sinus problems, etc. If a scent offends or effects you I would not wear it in respect for you. I thought I knew you a little better than this and am disappointed you would put your perfume/fragrance above a friendship or above someone who has allergies or sinus problems.

I think your comments to Angie are not fair. Why does she have to give up fragrance because someone she may or may not know is allergic? Give me a break!

graciegirl 11-12-2013 09:35 AM

Because some of us are from Minnesota?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice

And some of us TRY to follow the Golden Rule?

But if it makes you happy to wear fragrance, do it. If we all were the same they would only sell vanilla ice cream.

And sometimes people are sad or lonely or unhappy and if wearing a fragrance will make them enjoy life more, than dab on.

DianeM 11-12-2013 09:47 AM

Well said and the point I was trying to make. If something gives you pleasure - go for it. We need to stop mandating what "everyone" has to do.

njbchbum 11-12-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 778834)
Well said and the point I was trying to make. If something gives you pleasure - go for it. We need to stop mandating what "everyone" has to do.

Who has 'mandated' anything re the wearing of fragrance?

renielarson 11-12-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 778815)
I think your comments to Angie are not fair. Why does she have to give up fragrance because someone she may or may not know is allergic? Give me a break!

Guess I'm more sensitive to others than some. If a guest has a food allergy, I don't include that food in my menu. When I had cats, I always let my friends know before they came to visit so they could take their meds or decide not to come over. I smoke but use Fabreze and mouth spray so I don't offend anyone and I certainly don't smoke around non smokers and always go outside or far away from public places to get my nasty fix. Same goes with fragrance as to not wearing it when someone is allergic or bothered (as long as I know ahead of time). I am an avid Gardenia fragrance wearer but will abstain, if needed.

For me, it boils down to respect of others and the value put on friendship.

swimdawg 11-12-2013 07:09 PM

Fragrance....
 
I have to admit I wear a dab of Clinique's HAPPY body cream and I've had nothing but positive comments. Friends have asked me what fragrance I'm wearing be because it's a clean fragrance and not overwhelming.

I LOVE the smell of lime on a guy....oh yes! Whether it be after shave or body cologne. Bring it on you guys! But not too much!

One SMELL I cannot handle.....cigarette smoke! YUCK!

Maybe this should be a separate thread? Cigarette smoke smell is such a turn off!!!!

renielarson 11-12-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 779309)
I have to admit I wear a dab of Clinique's HAPPY body cream and I've had nothing but positive comments. Friends have asked me what fragrance I'm wearing be because it's a clean fragrance and not overwhelming.

I LOVE the smell of lime on a guy....oh yes! Whether it be after shave or body cologne. Bring it on you guys! But not too much!

One SMELL I cannot handle.....cigarette smoke! YUCK!

Maybe this should be a separate thread? Cigarette smoke smell is such a turn off!!!!

I agree Swimdawg! That's why I carry Fabreze and mouth spray in my car, both golf carts, and in my purse. I am sensitive to others and don't want to offend anyone by smelling like cigarettes.

FYI...I taught school for 10 years in one elementary building. Everyone was shocked when they found out I was a smoker because of the way I would "clean" myself before entering the building. Not until I let the cat out of the bag, at my retirement, did anyone have a clue.

I have to admit, when I'm around friends here in TV, I don't always "neutralize" myself since they know I'm a smoker. However, if anyone told me I was offensive, then I would take the steps needed to make sure I was not offensive to them. Friends are too important to me and I respect what they can and cannot tolerate.

capecodbob 11-12-2013 10:07 PM

The choir I sing in has a very strict rule. "No perfume or aftershave."

Now if we could just get that rule in the restaurants. Smokers are gone, now eliminating the stinky artificial stuff would really make a night out more pleasant. Or maybe a room for all the stink bombs to eat so the rest of us don't have to choke and gag on their smell. :clap2:

ilovetv 11-12-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by capecodbob (Post 779409)
The choir I sing in has a very strict rule. "No perfume or aftershave."

Now if we could just get that rule in the restaurants. Smokers are gone, now eliminating the stinky artificial stuff would really make a night out more pleasant. Or maybe a room for all the stink bombs to eat so the rest of us don't have to choke and gag on their smell. :clap2:

I can't think of a time when I noticed sickening perfume smells in a restaurant. It's almost always been in churches where I noticed the older ladies seem to have soaked in some godawful, cheap perfume that's soured in the bottle they've kept since 1956.

billethkid 11-12-2013 11:53 PM

another suject that is driven by isolated incidents and being presented as if it were a general, overwhelming condition....we all know that 98% of the time everything is just fine for most people......so let's not let the 2% swing us into gotta do something about it mode with the isolated incidents.

btk

DianeM 11-13-2013 01:24 AM

Seems as if the 2% are the loudest and ruin things for the 98%.

jnieman 11-13-2013 01:39 AM

Just think about it when you go to drench yourself with it that wearing so much may cause an allergic reaction to quite a few people. I say leave the perfume at home when riding with others in a golf cart or car or going to someone else's home especially if you know they have an allergy to it. Scented candles and perfume tend to close up my throat.

DianeM 11-13-2013 07:15 AM

A spritz is not drowning oneself.

kittygilchrist 11-13-2013 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Foruhun (Post 778447)
If you wear it every day, you get used to the scent and continue to spray until you think you've got enough on - then it's too much. For those of you who use it every day, it's already on your clothes so you may not have to add any. Just saying....

hmmm. gotta disagree Forohun. I don't get used to it and it doesn't spray like hair spray...it squirts once and very lightly. most clothes get washed after they've been worn. Some people wear a fragrance I don't like and wear more than I wish they would. but you really can't make people do what you want them to, otherwise people would drive like I want them to...:loco:
It seems like most of us are allergic to something...and I appreciate the reminder not to wear it when I'll be close to strangers who might be allergic as in a performance theater.

CFrance 11-13-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 779485)
hmmm. gotta disagree Forohun. I don't get used to it and it doesn't spray like hair spray...it squirts once and very lightly. most clothes get washed after they've been worn. Some people wear a fragrance I don't like and wear more than I wish they would. but you really can't make people do what you want them to, otherwise people would drive like I want them to...:loco:
It seems like most of us are allergic to something...and I appreciate the reminder not to wear it when I'll be close to strangers who might be allergic as in a performance theater.

The voice of reason. :wave:

billethkid 11-13-2013 08:49 AM

how does one find out or know who is allergic to what, where under what circumstance(s)?

One just cannot adjust ones lifestyle to accomodate all the maladies, real or imagined, in an open society.

The main ingredients in the 100% is moderation, patience and understanding......three element usually lacking in much of the 2%.

btk

Cisco Kid 11-13-2013 09:02 AM

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CFrance 11-13-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 779536)
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Maybe your Indian name should be Runs From Dogs...

DianeM 11-13-2013 09:31 AM

Really tired of the 2% trying to run the other 98%. Perhaps we should ban all candy because someone might be diabetic; ban all bakery items because someone might be gluten sensitive; ban all seafood because someone might be allergic to shellfish; ban all pets because someone might be allergic. Enough already. You can't please all the people all the time.

angiefox10 11-13-2013 10:41 AM

I honestly don't understand why this is such a hot topic.

I do understand that there are smells some of us can't handle. Those smells are different for different people. As we've seen on this thread, some people can't handle suntan lotion. I've heard some say they couldn't handle the smell of cleaning products.

I don't care for certain fragrances as well. One person posted they didn't like the Musk scent. I happen to love most of them.

I have friends who have dogs, cats, and smoke. Some have had bad breath and others don't always smell so nice. I know we think our own body odor smells sweet.... but not always to all of us. I know smokers don't think we can smell the smoke on them.... We may not know it's smoke... but we know we smell something.

I wear fragrance. I have also been complimented on my fragrance more than I can tell you, and in fact found the fragrance when someone walked past me in a restaurant and I chased her down to find out what she was wearing!

I have dogs.... I know my dogs emit a scent.... Someone without dogs would be able to smell it, while others with dogs most likely wouldn't.

My point is.... I don't ask my friends to change for me. If I like/love them... I accept them for who they are. I'm so very sorry this topic has come up. It seems to have brought out the mean in people. I think I like to to have nice smelling people around me, then to have mean people around me.

And BTW.... I'm guessing if this offends you.... You probably realize you've been one of the mean people.

Uptown Girl 11-13-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 779550)
Really tired of the 2% trying to run the other 98%. Perhaps we should ban all candy because someone might be diabetic; ban all bakery items because someone might be gluten sensitive; ban all seafood because someone might be allergic to shellfish; ban all pets because someone might be allergic. Enough already. You can't please all the people all the time.

Getting back to one of the things I wanted to understand (from my original post) I will ask Dianne as I believe she will share a very honest answer (and not hold back) !

If you are out, wearing the Channel #5 you enjoy and another woman/man, wearing a different fragrance embraces you/shakes your hand- ( I am referring to another wearing abundant fragrance that transfers to you from their hands or clothing and deposits on your person.)

Would that be something you would notice/ detect? (If wearing one fragrance precludes smelling another, I will understand)

If you CAN smell the other's scent on your clothing or skin, along side your Channel, would that be okay, no big deal?
To your senses, would it compromise the essence you wish yourself to project?

Perhaps this has never happened in your experience, but I am curious to know how you (or any fragrance wearer) would feel about that aspect of wearing fragrance, if you encountered that scenario.
?

mrsanborn 11-13-2013 12:04 PM

This is the most entertaining thread I have read in a long time. Can't wait to try the new bacon scented deodorant!

Bonny 11-13-2013 12:23 PM

I wear cologne every day. White Diamonds by Elizabeth Taylor. I like it because it's not an over powering scent.
I do know a couple of gals that you can smell them when they walk in a room and it's not a nice smell. Oh well, that's life.

redwitch 11-13-2013 01:13 PM

As I said previously, I'm very sensitive to scents. At the same time, I would never dream of asking my friends or acquaintances to not wear a scent unless I know we're going to be in a car together for a long time (and then it would have to be a very close friend for me to even consider mentioning it). It's my problem, not theirs, and people should be able to enjoy what they do without someone trying to stop that. I can always take a Benedryl if it becomes too much of an issue.

Oh, and I love perfumes. I did learn that if I only sprayed the back of my neck and behind my knees, I could wear it and did. Sadly, my favorite scent is no more -- Lauren by Ralph Lauren.

But if someone is wearing enough perfume that I can smell them long before they get near me, there is no way I'm going to let them close enough to touch me, let alone hug me. I try to be as polite as possible and simply explain that something they are wearing is triggering an allergic reaction, so, as long as we keep a reasonable distance we can still converse (sides, I HATE being touched by people I really don't know). And that's my solution to not smelling like someone else nor having their scent linger on my clothes and in my nose.

njbchbum 11-13-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 779444)
Seems as if the 2% are the loudest and ruin things for the 98%.

just wondering where you get your statistics?

Mayeapple109 11-13-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 778530)
There is a certain perfume older women wear that must be from the 1950s, and it is just plain nauseating. Most perfumes don't bother me at all but some do.....I run when a perfume tester approaches me at a department store entrance.

The one that older women wear that is nauseating is always unmistakably the same one. I don't know the name of it, but I've had to leave gatherings here because of it smelling like a combination of moth balls and maybe Eau de Funeral Parlor.

We have attended several churches here, where it seemed that all the friendly, sweet ladies at the doorway had taken a soaking bath in that godawful perfume. Several times, the services were inspiring and well led, but I had to leave early because of that awful perfume, and there was no way we'd join and attend there.

Does anybody know what it is? Somebody needs to tell women who wear it.



I think I know. It's VERY heavy super sickly sweet. It's by Este Lauder. One of the first popular ones. I was admitted to the hospital and the lady (I was about 25) in the next bed was elderly. She sprayed it all the time to cover up the hospital smell. I finally got to move to another room because I kept getting nauseous and had an awful migraine. I can sit here and recall the overbearing sickly sweet smell ugh. Wasn't the very first perfume of that company called Este Lauder?..

Mayeapple109 11-13-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 778815)
I think your comments to Angie are not fair. Why does she have to give up fragrance because someone she may or may not know is allergic? Give me a break!

Yea! And why should some young person give up their seat just because some old lady is standing. Why should they give up a comfy seat just because of your bad hip or back. They don't know you have an ailment and are in pain.
Give ME a break.

DianeM 11-13-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 779619)
Getting back to one of the things I wanted to understand (from my original post) I will ask Dianne as I believe she will share a very honest answer (and not hold back) !

If you are out, wearing the Channel #5 you enjoy and another woman/man, wearing a different fragrance embraces you/shakes your hand- ( I am referring to another wearing abundant fragrance that transfers to you from their hands or clothing and deposits on your person.)

Would that be something you would notice/ detect? (If wearing one fragrance precludes smelling another, I will understand)

If you CAN smell the other's scent on your clothing or skin, along side your Channel, would that be okay, no big deal?
To your senses, would it compromise the essence you wish yourself to project?

Perhaps this has never happened in your experience, but I am curious to know how you (or any fragrance wearer) would feel about that aspect of wearing fragrance, if you encountered that scenario.
?

I have never encountered another person who transferred their cologne to my skin or clothing so I cannot answer that. Chanel is Kitty's cologne of choice but the issue is the same. If their scent gets on you it would seem that they had either just put it on or they bathed in it. Normal people only do a spritz or two of a fine mist. Perhaps their clothing needs refreshing as well.

DianeM 11-13-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 779697)
just wondering where you get your statistics?

It's an opinion to which I am entitled.

DianeM 11-13-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayeapple109 (Post 779707)
Yea! And why should some young person give up their seat just because some old lady is standing. Why should they give up a comfy seat just because of your bad hip or back. They don't know you have an ailment and are in pain.
Give ME a break.

Apples and oranges. Obvious ailments and old age are one thing. This subject is another.

DianeM 11-13-2013 05:24 PM

This has become the most ridiculous conversation. Seems to me there are an awful lot of people who have forgotten to "live and let live". If you don't want to wear fragrance - by all means don't. I do want to and will continue to do so.

And to the lovely ladies who decided to private message me with their vitriolic commentary, I can only observe that a true coward only says things via private message as they don't have the courage to stand up and verbalize them in public. I'd say "nice chatting with you" but that would be a lie.

DougB 11-13-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 779818)
I have never encountered another person who transferred their cologne to my skin or clothing so I cannot answer that. Chanel is Kitty's cologne of choice but the issue is the same. If their scent gets on you it would seem that they had either just put it on or they bathed in it. Normal people only do a spritz or two of a fine mist. Perhaps their clothing needs refreshing as well.

Apparently you are not reading for comprehension or just enjoy the attention. This thread is about people who douse themselves and bath in it. If you are a "normal person who only does a spritz or two of a fine mist ", then you actually agree with everyone.

kittygilchrist 11-13-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 778323)
I will try to be tactful. The subject is people that wear perfume.

Today I was hugged affectionately by a lovely neighbor. Her perfume, although not a scent that was appalling (as many are) was all over me after the hug.
My hair, my clothes, the whole side of my face.

Within 10 minutes I had a raging headache. I was on my way out and had no time to change my clothes, so I washed the side of my face and sprayed myself with unscented Fabreeze…… it didn't make a dent in the smell that lingered all over me until I could return home and shower.
This is not the first time this has happened to me.


It is getting to the point where I dread going to a group gathering. Being hugged by multiple people (or even just sitting next to perfumed people on a couch) and picking up the residue of the different perfumes each is wearing is unbelievably annoying.


I can't believe that someone wearing scent wouldn't get annoyed when another's scent invades their own body/clothes/hair as they hug. They want their OWN, don't they? Or is it okay for all the perfumes to mingle? Or don't they know the difference? :shrug:
I gotta say, many scents don't go well at all with others rubbed on top… or when multiple ladies are side by side somewhere, all wearing perfume that competes.

I honestly don't understand this. Even if the majority of stuff did not give me a headache, I'd much rather smell the fresh air we are in, or the food we are eating at the time.
Instead the perfume demands the attention. Sadly, that's how I am beginning to look at it- as a detraction rather than a compliment to an otherwise beautiful woman. AND, they pay good money for this effect? !!!
I truly do not understand.
I'll add a bold P.S.- Do you mind if you leave your scent on somebody, or in someone's home after you have gone? Or someone's auto?
Just curious.

This is in reply to the later post asking what would the chanel wearer do if this happened to her...I'm the chanel girl.

I would invite the neighbor for lunch and mention, by the way, that some perfumes have been giving me a headache so when you come over please leave it off. Hopefully she will remember that and if you have to decline future hugs she ought not be offended.

There are things I would NOT do...

I wouldn't post negatively about a specific neighbor on TOTV.
I wouldn't think that only other people's perfume causes allergies and stinks, while mine does neither.
I would absolutely never spray a household product on myself to remove an odor. Especially because I too get headaches from strong chemicals near my nose. I believe Febreze warns against such use. And then what if someone else wanted a hug and I pass on the Febreze to them?

Most perfumes with any strength, even expensive ones, offend my half-canine schnoz, so I take into account that I'm oversensitive, and conclude that people are less rude than my nose thinks they are.

DianeM 11-13-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 779836)
Apparently you are not reading for comprehension or just enjoy the attention. This thread is about people who douse themselves and bath in it. If you are a "normal person who only does a spritz or two of a fine mist ", then you actually agree with everyone.

I follow quite well but thank you for concern. Many on this thread believe that since they do not like fragrance for whatever the reason feel no one should wear it. Not a reasonable ideology.

DianeM 11-13-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 779841)
This is in reply to the later post asking what would the chanel wearer do if this happened to her...I'm the chanel girl.

I would invite the neighbor for lunch and mention, by the way, that some perfumes have been giving me a headache so when you come over please leave it off. Hopefully she will remember that and if you have to decline future hugs she ought not be offended.

There are things I would NOT do...

I wouldn't post negatively about a specific neighbor on TOTV.
I wouldn't think that only other people's perfume causes allergies and stinks, while mine does neither.
I would absolutely never spray a household product on myself to remove an odor. Especially because I too get headaches from strong chemicals near my nose. I believe Febreze warns against such use. And then what if someone else wanted a hug and I pass on the Febreze to them?

Most perfumes with any strength, even expensive ones, offend my half-canine schnoz, so I take into account that I'm oversensitive, and conclude that people are less rude than my nose thinks they are.

AMEN. Febreze? Really? Sounds dangerous.

KathieI 11-13-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayeapple109 (Post 779700)
I think I know. It's VERY heavy super sickly sweet. It's by Este Lauder. One of the first popular ones. I was admitted to the hospital and the lady (I was about 25) in the next bed was elderly. She sprayed it all the time to cover up the hospital smell. I finally got to move to another room because I kept getting nauseous and had an awful migraine. I can sit here and recall the overbearing sickly sweet smell ugh. Wasn't the very first perfume of that company called Este Lauder?..

I think the fragrance you're talking about was called "Youth Dew" by Estee Lauder. It actually started as a very potent bath oil that women drenched themselves in. It was so successful that every fragrance introduced after that also had the most fragrance oil you can put in a perfume or cologne. Almost all of them were way tooo heavy, that's why I said in a previous post that after working on that brand for many years, I couldn't stand the smell of it. But I don't think anyone today wears it anymore, its not the top seller it used to be.

blueash 11-13-2013 06:33 PM

Before this thread closes, I thought I'd insert a link to a story about a grown woman who used axe every day for a week.

Axe men's body spray: What happens when a woman wears it for a week?

Enjoy this excerpt and click the link if you'd like to read the whole article.

I found myself trapped in the shower with only a bottle of three-in-one Axe ™ product (shampoo, body-wash, and conditioner). So I broke down and used it.
Sunshine. Harps. It was the most sublimely powerful fragrance experience of my adult life. Truly. After decades of smelling like a flower or a fruit, for the first time ever, I smelled like teen boy spirit. I smelled the way an adolescent male smells when he feels that everything good in the universe is about to be delivered to him, possibly by girls in angel wings. I had never smelled this entitled in my life. I loved it. I wanted more
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graciegirl 11-13-2013 06:39 PM

I love every one of you sassy opinionated souls. Good smellers and no smellers and strong smellers and even the axe person.

I am so glad we are all here to argue about it.

That means we are alive and kickin'.

Nothin' else really matters.

Hugs

bkcunningham1 11-13-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 779863)
I love every one of you sassy opinionated souls. Good smellers and no smellers and strong smellers and even the axe person.

I am so glad we are all here to argue about it.

That means we are alive and kickin'.

Nothin' else really matters.

Hugs


If we weren't alive, well, that would stink.

Patty55 11-13-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 779850)
I think the fragrance you're talking about was called "Youth Dew" by Estee Lauder. It actually started as a very potent bath oil that women drenched themselves in. It was so successful that every fragrance introduced after that also had the most fragrance oil you can put in a perfume or cologne. Almost all of them were way tooo heavy, that's why I said in a previous post that after working on that brand for many years, I couldn't stand the smell of it. But I don't think anyone today wears it anymore, its not the top seller it used to be.

Back in the day I wore Youth Dew, loved it, then found it too heavy.

I think as we get older our metabolism (or something) changes. For years I wore Opium and it smelled powdery. Then when I hit like 50 it started smelling like a garbage dumpster.


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