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jimjamuser 01-22-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

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In Newsbreak for today, I found a list of Fl. cities for CV. heading the list at 31,633 total cases/ 100,000 is the Miami area. The Villages is listed last out of about 40 at about 1/2 the cases or 14064/100,000 people. THAT is good! BUT, BIG BUT......The Villages is HIGHER than 50% of the cities for total DEATHS /100,000 at 14,064. Please check that out for yourself.
......The most likely reason for the LARGER rate of deaths than cases for The Villages in the Fl list IS that Villagers are an
OLDER population than other Fl cities. (our Hospitals can NOT be THAT bad).

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaj523 (Post 2051975)
Lots of people are testing positive when they are not sick at all. Most people who test positive are not sick at all. That number represents POSITIVE tests only, not people who are sick. Very misleading.

Not according to our own Doctor.....DR. Blue Ash! He said that the chances that a positive test is FALSE happens in about 2% of the tests. Now a negative rapid test IS false so many times as to be NOT useful information.

Velvet 01-22-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2052123)
Could we possibly have one Covid free discussion day on this forum? So tired of hearing this daily drumbeat of fear mongering over a virus that is survived by over 99%. Isn't it interesting that no one is hospitalized anymore or dies from the "regular flu"? And you don't hear anything about getting the flu shot. It is all Covid, Covid, Covid. Boister, booster, booster. Sick of hearing it. Try getting a life.

No. Wait till there is no more Covid, please. Some of us continue to be interested.

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052102)
Yes, some HAVE died as a direct result of Covid, BUT some have died of the FLU in the past, car accidents, COPD, cancer, gun shot wounds, plane crashes, etc. Everyone dies. It's just a matter of time. Take precautions, but live life without fear. ALL deaths "are acceptable" because I can't change that from happening. Why allow fear to rule your life? Everyone only has a finite amount of time to live. How are you going to live that time, in fear?

If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

MDLNB 01-22-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!


I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2052151)
They are hospitalized, they do die, and prior to flu season you did hear about the shots.

The reason you hear more about Covid is that Covid is killing nearly 20 times as many people. Many of today’s deaths are preventable with a simple shot.

The Villagers are OLDER than the US general population, so they have more BAD hospitalizations and more deaths. So, it is only natural that they are MORE worried and MORE interested in CV facts and the NEWEST information. Why begrudge someone their life-saving information found on their local forum. Those that are invulnerable and NOT in need of CV info and facts can easily scan RIGHT BY the CV threads!

jimjamuser 01-22-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052310)
I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

That .03 OF ONE PERCENT population comparison seems TOO low. But, my main point was that the US COULD (?) have been in a CV happy place if it was not for anti-vaxxers and conspiracy mongers.

Velvet 01-22-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2052310)
I believe that Portugal has about 0.03% the population of the U.S. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is hardly a comparison. We have states of the same population size and they have almost the same vaccination rate, give or take.

But, don’t we have enough vaccine for everyone in the US? It is only a degree of scale to compare to Portugal. As an elementary teacher I remember some immigrant fishing village Portuguese parent marking the report card with an “x” because they could not write their name. Yet, I would venture, they are not any less “intelligent” than we are.

Swoop 01-22-2022 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

Cruise ships require 100% of their crew and passengers to be vaccinated, yet the rate of Covid positives on cruise ships is comparable to the general population in the US. Explain how vaccines are effective…
FYI, that statistic was promoted by the cruise industry to show that cruising was safe…

Swoop 01-22-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2052308)
If 95% of all US residents that are eligible got ALL their vaccines AND boosters as recommended by LEGITIMATE Doctors - then we could ALL be happy and live life to the fullest. That IS NOT possible right now! Portugal has an over 95% vaccination rate. I imagine that they are living their lives to the fullest and are happy! And their Hospitals are fulfilling THEIR society's medical and health needs. In the US some states have some hospitals that are in CRISIS standard of care (as in do NOT resusitate)!

Here’s an even better example of vaccine effectiveness. You used Portugal as an example. You stated they have a 95% vaccination rate. Yet, based on today’s numbers, their Covid per capita infection rate is 2X the rate of Americans…
Yep, vaccines are the answer…
If the question is “What seems to have little to no effect on the spread of Covid?”…

JMintzer 01-22-2022 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by john352 (Post 2052275)
The accuracy of the "new COVID cases" numbers is going to get worse when people start using those new free at-home test kits.

Only if people self report their "positive" test results...

Langwelld 01-22-2022 11:05 PM

Cases mean nothing
 
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Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2051816)
As most Villagers know, The Villages spans through three different counties. Here are the number of new COVID cases as of Jan. 20, according to the CDC website. In Lake County, there have been 6,412 new cases over the last week. 212 of those cases were admitted to the hospital, and 14 resulted in death.

More...

Stop testing healthy people! Cases mean nothing only sicknesses and deaths. The real tragedy is that after two years hospitals offer no therapeutics. The State of Florida offers monoclonal treatments. Shame on the FDA and the CDC!

OhioBuckeye 01-23-2022 07:31 AM

It just seems like it’s no better. My wife & I are very fortunate, we haven’t gotten Covid or had any symptoms of it. We’re up to date on our shots but don’t always where mask but we do try very hard to get to close to other people!

SusanKD 01-23-2022 07:38 AM

I know so I’m I!

Dana1963 01-23-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Langwelld (Post 2052420)
Stop testing healthy people! Cases mean nothing only sicknesses and deaths. The real tragedy is that after two years hospitals offer no therapeutics. The State of Florida offers monoclonal treatments. Shame on the FDA and the CDC!

There are 50 States with approx 100 million people unvaccinated and sick exactly how many therapeutics is there available does Florida get it all?
Or are you talking about Ivermectin is FDA-approved for use in animals for prevention of heartworm disease in some small animal species, and for treatment of certain internal and external parasites in various animal species.


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