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OrangeBlossomBaby 04-15-2022 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2083701)
If every county in the USA had the integrity and did the same due diligence of Sumter County then there would be no controversy.

These people were caught because of election rules in place that allowed a thorough and accurate audit to be done after the fact.

Every fraudulent vote deprives a citizen of their vote. That is why corrupt politicians have changed or ignored laws to make voter fraud much easier. Without strong election verification there is no fair election. In Europe most countries are same day in person voting and ALL have a paper trail. Every vote should have a paper trail even when machines are used.

Voting in France: Paper ballots, in person, hand-counted
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fb4_story.html

Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts
The Detroit News

...and then they fixed the software errors, and it turned out the "too many votes" was 100% categorically entirely not true, at all, in any way shape or form. Turned out a few different things happened:

1. There were software errors, which were fixed.
2. Someone plugged in the wrong number into the wrong field in the database and came up with fewer people in the county than there actually were.

End result: the above was "social media" conspiracy rhetoric based on ERRORs, that were intentionally spread to create anger against the lawful winners of the elections in the state.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2083825)
There were several thousands of affidavits filed under penalty of perjury that described voter fraud of some sort in the several swing states that shut down the count almost simultaneously on election night.

So there definitely was a conspiracy.

Either one side colluded to get thousands of citizens to lie and risk jail time

or the other side perpetuated voter fraud on a massive scale.

Either way people should have gone to jail.
.

Those several thousand affidavits were thrown out of court every time it was submitted. Rudy even stated when he went to court that they were NOT claiming any fraud.

Sigh, this has been debated for over a year now, and it comes down to, every judge in the country is in on the conspiracy, every elected official in the country is in on the conspiracy, well you get the idea. The ONLY possible way it happened is if the stupidest party on the face of the heart (DEMs) manage to pull off 20 million (Trump's words) illegal or fraudulent votes, and did not leave a trace of evidence that was admissible in court.

I am sorry you still believe it. Even Trump's own people that he tasked with finding the fraud said, "there was no fraud", his own DHS said, "there was no fraud", and his own Attorney General said, "there was no fraud". And on and on.

Occam's razor The entire country lied and Trump is telling the truth, or Trump is a narcissist and can't admit he lost. Hmmm.

However, numerous indictments are about to come down against people pushing the lie. Hang onto your hats, this is going to get turbulent.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FLBeans (Post 2083829)
Is this Talk of the Villages censored? Can this site monitor and remove our freedom of speech if someone else gets their panties in a bunch? Hmmm…curious what others have to say.

Seriously, how many thousands of times do it have to be said, you have NO freedom of speech when it comes to private companies.

The Freedom of Speech in the Constitution specifically says it applies to the GOVERNMENT.

If you want to use a company's service, you agree to its rules, PERIOD. Don't like it then take your business elsewhere - that is called capitalism.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2083825)
There were several thousands of affidavits filed under penalty of perjury that described voter fraud of some sort in the several swing states that shut down the count almost simultaneously on election night.

So there definitely was a conspiracy.

Either one side colluded to get thousands of citizens to lie and risk jail time

or the other side perpetuated voter fraud on a massive scale.

Either way people should have gone to jail.
.

And people are going to jail, DOJ is sending people to trial every day, 700 of them are indicted, and more are being indicted and investigated every day. It is truly sad that it has taken 1 1/2 years, but it is finally happening. Things are coming out like Don'Jr's text showing he was working on lying about fraud before the election was even called.

The people claiming the government (DEMS) were responsible for a massive (20 million votes) are the same people that come on here and talk about how the government (DEMs) can't do anything right - hmmm...

rogerk 04-15-2022 10:58 AM

It was covered in The Daily Sun this week with the details

FLBeans 04-15-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by debem1@aol.com (Post 2083801)
What happened to TRUTH, JUSTICE and THE AMERICAN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only if you’re NOT offending a certain group with your freedom of speech? Religion, race, political views, sexual orientation, criminal background, billionaire, tax views, laws, ILLEGAL in the US, etc. Let’s hope we don’t have to call on Elon Musk to protect our Freedom. Lol Twitter has been a raw topic right now for just this thing. Only a select group are allowed freedom. We the people are F fed up!!!
I totally get NO hate crimes.
However, others can hit, yell, steal, violate, just don’t TELL them that they are doing it and get panties in a bunch. Lol Let’s see if this post gets taken down or if I have to call Elon. Just sayin. Lol

rsmurano 04-15-2022 10:59 AM

I can’t believe most people dismiss this. Sure, only a couple votes. Say 60,000 people did this? Say a few million did this across the country? That’s like saying he only shot 1 person.
If it’s a law and it’s broken, especially our elections, then fine them, jail time, whatever is appropriate that’s on the books. This generation has gone soft and look at us: everybody gets a trophy, no tests in school, kids can turn in their parents if they lay a hand on them.

valuemkt 04-15-2022 11:07 AM

You don;t need to have two residences. in my 20 years in Atlanta, the "Vote early, Vote often" mantra was more than a chuckle. Early voters in some districts were treated to free food and drinks as they waited in line to cast their "only" ballots.

LianneMigiano 04-15-2022 11:13 AM

I'll bet it's a grossly UNDER REPORTED crime...
 
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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2083503)
This is not large scale voter fraud. They voted here and back home.

As did how many other similar cheaters throughout the country - that just DIDN'T get caught yet!

MDLNB 04-15-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083799)
It is 100% of the cases involving old white men vs black women punishment. 4 cases, 4 sentences.

So, you are bored that a BLACK WOMEN got sentenced to 5 years in prison for trying to vote, while a WHITE MAN who actually voted illegally got community service and a course in civics.

No prejudice in this country, it is just something the left makes up.


You may be seeing "prejudice" where there is none. Two different states, and two different judges. What would you say if a "white man" got more time than a "black woman"....oh well, he deserved it and she didn't? Why make it a racial issue, when you do not know the details OR the motive/intent? Every state has had at least one detected voter that made multiple votes or voter fraud of some sort during an election. How it is handled is probably different in each of those states.

ithos 04-15-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083840)
Those several thousand affidavits were thrown out of court every time it was submitted. Rudy even stated when he went to court that they were NOT claiming any fraud.

Sigh, this has been debated for over a year now, and it comes down to, every judge in the country is in on the conspiracy, every elected official in the country is in on the conspiracy, well you get the idea. The ONLY possible way it happened is if the stupidest party on the face of the heart (DEMs) manage to pull off 20 million (Trump's words) illegal or fraudulent votes, and did not leave a trace of evidence that was admissible in court.

I am sorry you still believe it. Even Trump's own people that he tasked with finding the fraud said, "there was no fraud", his own DHS said, "there was no fraud", and his own Attorney General said, "there was no fraud". And on and on.

Occam's razor The entire country lied and Trump is telling the truth, or Trump is a narcissist and can't admit he lost. Hmmm.

However, numerous indictments are about to come down against people pushing the lie. Hang onto your hats, this is going to get turbulent.

These affidavits were thrown out for legal and technical reasons not because of any field investigations. A thorough vetting would have taken many months to complete at least.

Also many establishment GOP hated Trump as much as the Democrats and were thrilled that he lost. That included the famous bagpipe musician Bill Barr.

If people lied then lock them up. And I hope you are right because I would love to see this litigated in court. Remember how the Rittenhouse case blew up all the media lies?

FLBeans 04-15-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by angloam (Post 2083659)
Yet, what about Cynthia Mason, a Black lady, who thought she had the right to vote. Texas sent Her to Five Years in Prison for Trying? Also, another Black woman, Pamela Moses, sentenced to six years in prison over voting error? Then there’s another Black lady, Havis Rogers facing the same fate. Yet, in North Carolina Mark Meadows, former White House Chief of Staff just got struck off voter rolls as that state investigates allegations that he committed voter fraud in the 2020 election.

Wait? What? Black? What about all the terrorism/vandalism/smash and grabs? Cities in the US - people STILL terrorized by it. Why can THIS not be spoken of? Watch how fast this post is removed. We certainly keep hearing about cops shooting blacks. How about the T-Shirts with cops names on them - killed by BLACK??? Can they be sold in Target? OMG NEVER. Are we allowed to ask to remove YOUR posts?? Let’s see how long this post is up. Freedom of speech gone too?

FLBeans 04-15-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2083678)
welcome to free press and censorship cancellation algorism program If you say any comment that is contrary to the left position, they will cancel you comment or not print it.. They call that transparency free speech. I hope this comment is not cancelled. Most of social media's platform is bias about any reports that is negative narratives having to do with the left even if it is true. You go back 3 years you will find a great deal of treads that were censored or not reported because they were negative about the left position on government, disease, financial , war, social, and many political policies. Florida has one of the best and true reporting press and political leaders in USA.

Exactly! Wait till you see how FAST they take this down. Elons trying to do something. Only CERTAIN people are allowed voices anymore.

ex34449 04-15-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083563)
Two old White guys committee the act, 50 hours service. One black woman tried and got 5 years.

I agree the guys should now be in jail (I really wish they were) but you're comparing 2 old guys with no record to a person on parole. The VOP is what put her back in. Apples to oranges here. No race/sex involved

nancyre 04-15-2022 12:25 PM

Move your voting registration - vote at both homes or only 1 lots on confusion
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2083502)
Would you really expect anything negative about this place to be in the Sun?

Florida Officials Hunt for Snowbirds Who Voted Twice
Snowbirds may vote twice, difficult to detect

The issue / confusion seems to be - if I own 2 homes can I vote in the local elections in each place. A Single vote for President (pick one location). This has long been a confusion. 2 articles links above : 2021 & 2016

Please folks can we not make this a party or racist discussion or a bash a publication for covering it or not. I had the state of FL, notify NYS when I moved my voter registration and became a FL resident. That is what should happen unfortunately often it does not work and the old state keeps you on the rolls.

Nannyof3 04-15-2022 12:41 PM

voter fraud
 
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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2083503)
This is not large scale voter fraud. They voted here and back home.

voter fraud none-the-less

FLBeans 04-15-2022 12:59 PM

I apologize to the others having to read my rant. I attribute it to PTSD as I did have to work in the city up north during this horrific time AND late at night whilst all the terror going on. There is NO help for the victims. No remorse - only hearing how bad the world is for others. No pictures, no arrests, no showing on TV what was done. Cover it up! The hate crimes committed - not allowed to speak of it like it NEVER happened. When mention is made? Deleted!!! Can’t even watch people receiving Oscars without the violence and WHAM it comes rushing back. No justice? NO arrest? He got an award??? WTH has happened to this world where violence is allowed and awards are given? I witnessed horrific thing - yes, it was war.
But don’t freekin silence ME for telling of it. Because you won’t see it on the news or in history books.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2083861)
You may be seeing "prejudice" where there is none. Two different states, and two different judges. What would you say if a "white man" got more time than a "black woman"....oh well, he deserved it and she didn't? Why make it a racial issue, when you do not know the details OR the motive/intent? Every state has had at least one detected voter that made multiple votes or voter fraud of some sort during an election. How it is handled is probably different in each of those states.

As to the "details", the details of both cases are public and have been covered extensively. The voters here confessed. The black lady I am referring to just got out of jail, and was on probation. She asked and was told she was allowed to vote on probation, so she went to the polls. The polls said she wasn't allowed to vote, so she left, then was arrested, and given 5 years form "trying to vote". Seriously. If YOU were given a sentence of 5 years for TRYING to vote, would you be ****ed?

When something constantly happens, it is racial. I agree different states and different judges. On the other hand, how many white people have gone to jail anywhere in the country for voter fraud? The only one I even know about being investigated is Mark Meadows. We will see how that turns out.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nancyre (Post 2083895)
Florida Officials Hunt for Snowbirds Who Voted Twice
Snowbirds may vote twice, difficult to detect

The issue / confusion seems to be - if I own 2 homes can I vote in the local elections in each place. A Single vote for President (pick one location). This has long been a confusion. 2 articles links above : 2021 & 2016

Please folks can we not make this a party or racist discussion or a bash a publication for covering it or not. I had the state of FL, notify NYS when I moved my voter registration and became a FL resident. That is what should happen unfortunately often it does not work and the old state keeps you on the rolls.

No one is "making it" racial or political - it IS.

The Big Lie is being told over and over with NO proof. Lying that undermines confidence in our election system. Lies that lead to election officials and their families being threatened to being killed. And nothing is done.

So, we point out cases where there is no dispute and we are told to not mention it? Seriously?

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ex34449 (Post 2083893)
I agree the guys should now be in jail (I really wish they were) but you're comparing 2 old guys with no record to a person on parole. The VOP is what put her back in. Apples to oranges here. No race/sex involved

Sorry, I completely disagree. She was TOLD by the prison she could vote. She did NOTHING wrong. The VOP took aggressive action for political reasons (voter fraud) where if she were an old white guy nothing would have been done.

I have gone to the wrong polling place and been told I wasn't allowed to vote there, and I did not end up in court. But, then I am an old white guy.

So, I respectfully disagree with you, there are countless cases of blacks in states like Texas and Florida are disproportionately punished for things white regularly get away with.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FLBeans (Post 2083879)
Wait? What? Black? What about all the terrorism/vandalism/smash and grabs? Cities in the US - people STILL terrorized by it. Why can THIS not be spoken of? Watch how fast this post is removed. We certainly keep hearing about cops shooting blacks. How about the T-Shirts with cops names on them - killed by BLACK??? Can they be sold in Target? OMG NEVER. Are we allowed to ask to remove YOUR posts?? Let’s see how long this post is up. Freedom of speech gone too?

Again, posting on forums has NOTHING to do with Freedom of Speech. It is NOT covered by the constitution.

So, because of "other" black people that have done illegal things then it is OKAY for Texas to send a parolee to prison for 5 years for trying to vote. Conflating totally different things much. Have a drink, calm down, the world is not going to end tomorrow. (Maybe next Monday).

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Life as I know it (Post 2083677)
Mark Meadows and his wife also voted twice. Now he should know better….

I read it as they registered twice. Not that they voted twice...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2083737)
Voter fraud are the Elephant party members and the Florida is run/controlled by the elephant party, therefore no jail time. In Texas, they only put blacks in jail for same offense - 5 years! Oh, Fascism does exist in the US.

Just can't help yourself with the political posts...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083770)
Not a role model, an example of the racist and biased punishment handed out. Old White Men, community service, black woman, prison. I think that is a pretty stark example of problems we have with our voting system and laws.

When all you look for is racism, racism is all you will find...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083771)
The ONLY person I have heard that still makes this claim (after art has been thrown out of court numbers times as baseless/meritless) is a certain ex-president who is facing numerous pending indictments for impersonating Putin.

More politics from the person who claims his posts are not political...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083796)
Apparently actually voting illegally counts less than just trying to vote illegally. It is a really good thing they actually voted and broke the law, so they didn't get a 5 year jail sentence, like the lady that DID NOT VOTE.

Funny thing is about 90% of the voter fraud I am read about so far are conservatives that voted for Trump - 1 1/2 years later and we are still waiting for all that piles of evidence we were promised of MASSIVE voter fraud that would prove to the world what the Democrats did. Still waiting...

Good thing you never post about politics...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2083799)
It is 100% of the cases involving old white men vs black women punishment. 4 cases, 4 sentences.

So, you are bored that a BLACK WOMEN got sentenced to 5 years in prison for trying to vote, while a WHITE MAN who actually voted illegally got community service and a course in civics.

No prejudice in this country, it is just something the left makes up.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/6751A64NJkyCQ/giphy.gif

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by debem1@aol.com (Post 2083801)
What happened to TRUTH, JUSTICE and THE AMERICAN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Superman died, didn't you hear?

JMintzer 04-15-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 2083817)
You won't hear, they are Republicans.

Good to see no one cares about the rules here...

Bogie Shooter 04-15-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FLBeans (Post 2083879)
Wait? What? Black? What about all the terrorism/vandalism/smash and grabs? Cities in the US - people STILL terrorized by it. Why can THIS not be spoken of? Watch how fast this post is removed. We certainly keep hearing about cops shooting blacks. How about the T-Shirts with cops names on them - killed by BLACK??? Can they be sold in Target? OMG NEVER. Are we allowed to ask to remove YOUR posts?? Let’s see how long this post is up. Freedom of speech gone too?

So, what do you really think of people of color?

Lindsyburnsy 04-15-2022 02:38 PM

Apparently these people were caught. Voting by mail or by any other means, should be as easy as getting a gun.

JMintzer 04-15-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2083942)
So, what do you really think of people of color?

Instead of immediately going there, why not tell him where he's wrong?

fdpaq0580 04-15-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2083937)

I feel very sad for the child in this clip. He is being groomed to be another angry racist.
😥

Bogie Shooter 04-15-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2083962)
Instead of immediately going there, why not tell him where he's wrong?

That would be a full time job which I cannot accept…………….
Besides after a couple hundred words most readers would just move on.

Villages Kahuna 04-15-2022 04:10 PM

2 out of about 140,000 residents is “news”?

Hacker1 04-15-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grill Meister (Post 2083499)
I just read the headlines from the Orlando newspaper that two Villagers had admitted voter fraud in the 2020 elections but will not serve any jail time. I am not a subscriber to the Orlando newspaper and, therefore, was unable to read any of the details. I am a little disappointed that there has been no mention in the DAILY SUN nor in Talk of The Villages.

Can someone fill us in on who the Villagers are and the circumstances involved in the fraudulent voting.

I believe I did see mention of this in the Daily Sun a couple of times in the past few months.

MartinSE 04-15-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2083978)
2 out of about 140,000 residents is “news”?

That would be 2 caught. Out of how many we don't know. Several people have stated it was not a big deal since so many own homes in two states they could just get confused.

Funny how when it is the big lie it is a big deal when 1 is caught, but reverse it and not a big deal.


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