:read:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/23/nyregion/23towns.html

Interesting NYT article "A Gold Mine for Lawsuits"
slip and fall lawsuits by the thousands...vs course owner.

I think I need an extra dose of koolaid today..thinking too much...

Oh no, another solicitor. He goes door to door offering to pick up stray golf balls...sheesh.

Here is what I do as an avid golfer and one who knows most of the rule book:

If I hit OB I leave it unless:

The house has a clear posted sign: "Please retrieve your ball if possible" or something like that. I would say about 5% of homes have some sign either Yay or Nay.

If the ball is just on the line where I can reach it without stepping on the property I will pick I up.

If the homeowner is visible (on the lanai for example) and I make eye contact I will usually ask "Do you want me to retrieve the ball". Most say "sure".

It's common sense people.

From that nyt article
"INDEED, the errant golf ball is probably the least of it these days, especially as state after state has adopted a similar standard that only an intentional shot at another golfer or one showing gross and reckless negligence is grounds for a successful lawsuit. "

So if you hit when the people infront of you aren't clear it is intentional or gross negligence but it you are just hitting a really bad shot and it hits someone in their yard your' ok but they are so out of luck.

I was waiting for someone to bring up the dogs in this thread! :D So of all these golf course property owners that have dogs (seen many that do) and WALK them on private property of owner's corner lots, sidewalk lots, mail stations, GOLF courses, public areas, and let them use it for their toilets, what is their "opinion" about that? Even IF they pick it up, that causes more damage with dog urine than walking on a lawn to retrieve a golf ball. The point is, they walked on someone's property too. Probably some complaining in this post walk their dogs on private property. Is there a double standard taking place here?
Sorry, just had to do it. ok, back to people thinking it's bad to walk on golf course lots. :popcorn:

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You must not read TOTV often. NO ONE on TOTV allows their dogs on others' property.:thumbup:

Roaddog, I'd really like to know how for you personally, not just a general comment, but how dog potty issues violate your own personal space? I'm new and not wanting to offend anybody with my best friend. I'm going to post a dog urine thread, where your answers will be best appreciated.
I have some photos of dog urine spots to post.
Kitty

Oh please, I beseech you, no more dog urine threads. :boom:

It doesn't matter - Some (most?) dog owners think that as long as they pick up the debris, everything else if fair game. And a previous poster is correct - the same people that say "get off my lawn" when people look for balls are the same people who let Refus tinkle, poop and then tramp over the lawn to pick it up. They won't get it and the many threads on both subjects just proves it. Dogs should do their business on THEIR OWN lawn - nowhere else.

Let the dog owner flames begin.

And no I don't mean EVERY dog owner.

Russ, This is a thread about golf balls, so perhaps you could, or the moderator could help you, post a new thread in the appropriate place.

I think his post is related to the issue of trespassing on property. It is relevant to this thread.

flying golf balls goes with the territory
 

I like the idea of having a little sign put out for the golfers. Do people really trample on your flower beds? That sounds kinda rude. Just don't get hit by the balls.

I believe as much as the next guy that dog owners must be considerate and not impact other people's private property. But since there are plenty of places where it is generally considered acceptable and even appropriate for dogs to relieve themselves which are not on THEIR OWN lawn, I can't agree with this statement.

:agree: about trespassing, but it is in the golf forum. He has serious issues with dog owners who might pay attention if it were posted there.

Because they know their wrong and I have the nerve to point it out to them. And I was not the first one to bring up dog issues on this thread. If you read my posts you know that I have no issue or qualms about stating my position.

PS > just started a new thread on the pet forum.