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argos5usa 07-24-2015 02:24 AM

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peteg 07-24-2015 05:24 AM

The initial comment has only one inaccuracy as it berates certain ladies groups
The pace of golf is defined by using the ready golf procedure and applies to everyone
I find it frustrating following a group playing from black where their first shot seldom passes the front tee, and continuing until they putt out

Memory fails me sometimes but I took an intro to golf which included the ready golf system which included - after twice the number of shots v par you left the hole
you played when safe to do so and when you were ready, not always
in true golf order
most often a lost ball is in an area where you are best not advised to go -
either the bushes or lake
leave the green area before marking your card
I have seldom come across a handicapped golfer who causes delay and if there was just put up with it with a smile - one day we may be in that position ourselves

mike1921 07-24-2015 06:10 AM

Hi everyone
Just coming down next week to buy a home and become a full time villager. Looking forward to maybe playing some golf with some of you. I too can get frustrated by.slow play but I have found in my 45 years of golf that the source can be from a variety of culprits. A couple areas of a golf course that seems to always slow down are the par 3's and short par 4's. This defines an executive course and would seem to be the genesis of the issue. Yes everyone should practice ready golf and be more aware of the issue but other than spreading out tee times it probably is what it it is. Hope to see you all soon

Newbeginnings 07-24-2015 06:17 AM

I find it very frustrating to be behind golfers on an executive course who take 12 shots on a par 3 or 4, holding up 4-6 carts of people because they say "I pay my amenity fees, I'll play as long as I want and take as many strokes as I want". The groups I play with have all taken the Good Golf School, pick up after double par and try to be considerate and respectful on the course. I sympathize with the Ambassadors as some have been fired when asking a group that is very slow to pick up the pace. BTW I am a woman, and a newbie golfer, the first thing I did when I came to The Villages was sign up for good golf school, a very valuable tool when golfing.

wendyquat 07-24-2015 06:52 AM

I just hate it when the group behind me starts looking impatient before I can tee off with my second ball! :gc:

dillywho 07-24-2015 08:44 AM

Well, I am ready to duck, but to all the ones that say, "what's the hurry", etc.. It is not about hurry or anyone wanting to interfere with your "enjoyment"; it is more about everyone's enjoyment, not just a select few. Personally, slow play drives me nuts because I find that I play much better if it is not slow out there (not just here...any place). I also hate to have to feel rushed. It's not about how "fast" you can get out of there, either. I don't care if you can't hit every green (I can't either), but: 1) be ready when it is your turn, 2) write scores and put away clubs on the next hole and getting your club for that hole out and ready, 3) finish your conversation on the way to the next hole (you can talk while the cart is in motion, 4) pick up after double par, and the list goes on.

Bottom line: Be courteous of the other golfers because you are not the only one(s) on the course, and they pay their amenities just like you do and are just as "entitled" (hate that word) to play as you are and to enjoy their game.

And, yes, I am a woman golfer.

billethkid 07-24-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1091054)

Bottom line: Be courteous of the other golfers because you are not the only one(s) on the course, and they pay their amenities just like you do and are just as "entitled" (hate that word) to play as you are and to enjoy their game.

What is nice about the above is that it is applicable to either side of the discussion of pace of play.

outlaw 07-24-2015 12:00 PM

Golf is a serial game, meaning your slow play impacts everyone playing behind you. If you play fast, no one behind you is adversely affected. Get with the program, or go sit in a rocking chair and watch the season change.

kcrazorbackfan 07-24-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1090882)
Seems to me the OP was just trying to stir up a 9 page thread with the sexist remarks.
We all know that there are slow women and slow men on the course (probably more slow men, simply because more men play)
If it bothers you that much, play the championship courses. They speed you up or ask you to let people play through.
You wanna gripe about something? Gripe about the MEN who leave cigars laying all over the golf course.

Or how about sunflower shells all over the green? YUCH!

kcrazorbackfan 07-24-2015 01:17 PM

Do not categorize all women players together. My wife went to play Bonifay last week as a single in the afternoon. We were waiting at the starter shack and 3 men pull up behind us. My wife asked if she could join them and their facial expressions were priceless (oh, no, we got to play with a woman?). After hemming and hawing for a few moments, they reluctantly said ok but only if she would play from the same tee as them. After her saying she would play from the blues if they wanted to, one said no, the whites are fine. At the end of 9, she had a 38 and the three men had 44, 47, and 52. They all decided they had other things to do after 9. It was really enjoyable watching that.

outlaw 07-24-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1091155)
Do not categorize all women players together. My wife went to play Bonifay last week as a single in the afternoon. We were waiting at the starter shack and 3 men pull up behind us. My wife asked if she could join them and their facial expressions were priceless (oh, no, we got to play with a woman?). After hemming and hawing for a few moments, they reluctantly said ok but only if she would play from the same tee as them. After her saying she would play from the blues if they wanted to, one said no, the whites are fine. At the end of 9, she had a 38 and the three men had 44, 47, and 52. They all decided they had other things to do after 9. It was really enjoyable watching that.

So you went along and watched your wife play golf with 3 men?

Polar Bear 07-24-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1091158)
So you went along and watched your wife play golf with 3 men?

Heheh...that's what I was wondering.

tomwed 07-24-2015 01:57 PM

When the round is extra slow how do you pass the time?


I coached hs golf. I'll teach you a side game the students use to play while waiting to tee off. In NJ group and state tournaments are over booked, there is a lot on the line and kids that are not seasoned golfers take extra practice swings. Anyway, the game was called knock-out. Using the club you are going to tee off with the first person starts at the left the marker and tries to hit the right tee marker. If they do next they try to hit the left tee marker and if they do they try to hit their opponents golf ball. If they miss, and everyone usually misses, the next player goes. All four players go in rotation and are trying are trying to knock out the other players after they first hit the 2 ball markers.

I learned this trick too if you get nervous waiting for your turn to hit. Toss the ball up a foot or 2 and catch it. Your instincts will focus on catching the ball and not on getting nervous.

Or you can just hope everyone in the villages plays faster golf because they read this thread.

cavalier65 07-24-2015 04:05 PM

Thanks for your insight:)
 
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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1091054)
Well, I am ready to duck, but to all the ones that say, "what's the hurry", etc.. It is not about hurry or anyone wanting to interfere with your "enjoyment"; it is more about everyone's enjoyment, not just a select few. Personally, slow play drives me nuts because I find that I play much better if it is not slow out there (not just here...any place). I also hate to have to feel rushed. It's not about how "fast" you can get out of there, either. I don't care if you can't hit every green (I can't either), but: 1) be ready when it is your turn, 2) write scores and put away clubs on the next hole and getting your club for that hole out and ready, 3) finish your conversation on the way to the next hole (you can talk while the cart is in motion, 4) pick up after double par, and the list goes on.

Bottom line: Be courteous of the other golfers because you are not the only one(s) on the course, and they pay their amenities just like you do and are just as "entitled" (hate that word) to play as you are and to enjoy their game.

And, yes, I am a woman golfer.


Thanks for your insight:bigbow:

jimmemac 07-24-2015 04:57 PM

I think we aught to change ready play to courteous play and all be reasonable instead of telling people to sit in a rocking chair-we will all be getting older and slower if we l ive long enough!


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