Originally Posted by kimgarwel12@gmail.com (Post 2289387)

I run a ladies group on T/F with about 20 people. I put in a 9-hr time range with the 5 courses south of 44. So far this season, we haven't been shut out. Can't wait for the 4 new execs coming south of 44!! My husband is in a men's group on Tuesdays with about 80 guys. It's a "registered" group (over 30 people) and they always get tee times. Might be in a couple of different courses, but they never get shut out. And yes, points do matter, especially cancellation/no-show points.

Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 2289395)

When there was 85,000 people here, ( Before south of 44) We had 56 executive courses. Now we have 135,000 people here and have adding 5 Executive courses. Think about that, And when you were buying your home they sold you on “FREE GOLF”. What a bag of horse **** that is. Remember, This is not the “Same people” who started the Villages. This is the greedy kids.. Their Father, and Grandfather are rolling in their graves.

Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 2289299)

Mickey Lee, Marshview and Richmond are empty almost every day. That should be a hint to the dev that one or two of them should be converted to an executive.

Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 2289395)

What a bag of horse **** that is. . This is the greedy kids.. Their Father, and Grandfather are rolling in their graves.

Originally Posted by jamorela (Post 2288969)

I am a full-timer. I belong to 3 different executive course golf groups - T, W, Th. I normally do not play three days a week but since I had been gone for three weeks, I decided to try to get some golf in. One group is a large singles group about 32 people. One group is a singles group about 16 people, and the third group is a foursome. All 3 groups received “not able to accommodate request” responses. And, yes they put in for several courses and 7 days ahead. Who else is seeing this?

Originally Posted by GregP (Post 2289332)

I run a singles golf group and have been running it for going on 6 years. I tell all in my group that if you are sitting at 1 or 2 points when I put in the request you are safe if you have 3 points you are on the fence, if you have 4 points a big maybe, after that pretty much forget it. I use excel and make sure each team (4) has no more than 8 points total preferably only 7. I use a 2 and a half hour time frame and use 14 courses. In all the time I have been doing this my group has only been shut out 3 times. One of those was because I forgot to recheck point before I but the request in and a few had golfed the day before which will not show till the next day. Yes I hear there are those that cheat and I have heard they do get caught, GOOD! Note if I have a group of 3 I keep them a 6 points max or below. Should average out to 2 point per person per group. Average for all playing at about 1.75 points

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2289450)

Some people forget, daddy and granddaddy made $1,000,000,000.......that's a BILLION dollars long before daddy died.

Daddy & Granddaddy are celebrating in their graves (which for the record, it's impossible for them to roll)

Originally Posted by kimgarwel12@gmail.com (Post 2289387)

I run a ladies group on T/F with about 20 people. I put in a 9-hr time range with the 5 courses south of 44. So far this season, we haven't been shut out. Can't wait for the 4 new execs coming south of 44!! My husband is in a men's group on Tuesdays with about 80 guys. It's a "registered" group (over 30 people) and they always get tee times. Might be in a couple of different courses, but they never get shut out. And yes, points do matter, especially cancellation/no-show points.

Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2289447)

Brilliant idea on coversion - Richmond is an out-and-back 18, make it an EXEC! They also have ANOTHER Pich-n-Putt being built south of Turnpike near East Port. Very UNNECESSARY expense with Mickee Lee P-n-P 5 minutes away.

Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2289359)

Try playing championship courses. No, they're not free, but part of the reason exec is so full is because it's free. My group plays only championship and have noticed a significant decrease in being busy/full this year on championships.

Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 2289395)

When there was 85,000 people here, ( Before south of 44) We had 56 executive courses. Now we have 135,000 people here and have adding 5 Executive courses. Think about that, And when you were buying your home they sold you on “FREE GOLF”. What a bag of horse **** that is. Remember, This is not the “Same people” who started the Villages. This is the greedy kids.. Their Father, and Grandfather are rolling in their graves.

Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 2289299)

Mickey Lee, Marshview and Richmond are empty almost every day. That should be a hint to the dev that one or two of them should be converted to an executive.

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2289462)

I doubt that would ever be considered and I doubt there is enough room.

Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2289447)

Brilliant idea on coversion - Richmond is an out-and-back 18, make it an EXEC! They also have ANOTHER Pich-n-Putt being built south of Turnpike near East Port. Very UNNECESSARY expense with Mickee Lee P-n-P 5 minutes away.

Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 2289299)

Mickey Lee, Marshview and Richmond are empty almost every day. That should be a hint to the dev that one or two of them should be converted to an executive.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2289461)

What is a “registered group”?

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2289543)

I agree with the first part - I doubt that it would ever be considered. But I disagree with the second part. There is enough room.

The first hole is 59 yards and the second hole is 65 yards. When you add the walk from the first hole to the second hole, that is at least another 30 yards.

Third and fourth are 97 and 74.

Fifth and sixth are 57 plus 58.

Seventh and eighth are 105 and 104.

Ninth and tenth are 110 and 65.

Eleventh and twelfth are 59 and 91.

Thirteenth and fourteenth are 90 and 55.

Fifteenth and sixteenth are 78 and 60.

Seventeenth are eighteenth are 82 and 72.

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2289556)

You need space between the holes with the much longer distances of an Executive course. You can't have the tee boxes on top of the greens like you do at many of the holes at Richmond - too dangerous. Also, Richmond has very small tee boxes. An executive would need much more space for tee boxes so the tees can be moved around to distribute the wear. Also, the Richmond greens are tiny. You would need larger greens and larger sand traps for an executive course. While the number of holes decreases the amount of space per hole would go way up. No way there is enough room.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2289708)

We keep hearing about all of the new courses being built in Eastport. I think it is three championship and four executives.

At this point they are in the planning stage. Right now, they are just a drawing on a map. Does anyone have any idea when the courses will be completed?

I asked a starter and he said one of the championship courses should open this summer but he had no idea when the executives will open.

He didn’t think the first executive would open until next year and the final one would be a few years after that.

Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2289712)

3 new championships, 6 new executives; (4 named so far, 2 unnamed), 1 new P&P and a new driving range/teaching facility.

From what I’ve seen published, first new championship, (Shallow Creek), will open April or May and the first executive and P&P, (Live Oak/Laurel Oak) will open October timeframe.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2289767)

Thanks for answering.

Where did you see that published?

Any idea on when the remaining courses will open? Everyone says all of these courses are planned but they aren’t going to alleviate the problem until they are built.

I think we are looking at least a five year timeframe.