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With the scenario that was presented, there is now an open spot (John's original spot).

Then why bother to move John to Adam's spot? An opening is an opening. In what way does it matter?

We built much longer ago than 10 years. "Winter" was always a little more difficult, but if one were "reasonable" (meaning, no demanding ONE particular course at ONE certain day and time) it was not that difficult to get something similar to the request. Over the years it's just become, yes, beyond frustrating. I'm sure even the Championship (pay) courses do not come close to bringing in the amount of money the sale of a new home does, so you have to kind of figure: if you have self space in your store, and stocking one item brings a LOT more profit than stocking another item that might be a convenience and help to the customers who come in, but on which there is nearly no profit, or even is a "loss leader" item. So golf courses could be an attractive "loss leader" for this business. Also, how would any resident know how many MORE times that traditionally reserved for the villages sales department, are now being held back ? Are even more allotted to the sales department now that the square miles of the V's have grown exponentially. So couple those possibilities with the great increase in people owning "chains" of properties for short term rental, that demographic too has definitely increased since many years ago when the "typical" winter residents were 2 people to a home they either owned (and did not rent out when not occupying), or renters would stay an entire winter. Just so many changes that combine to cause major dysfunction, can't blame ONE thing, except perhaps lack of adequate contingency planning while adding one village after another. Kind of like a Ponzi scheme, they finally collapse but always look very successful until the end ! ?

We built much longer ago than 10 years. "Winter" was always a little more difficult, but if one were "reasonable" (meaning, no demanding ONE particular course at ONE certain day and time) it was not that difficult to get something similar to the request. Over the years it's just become, yes, beyond frustrating. I'm sure even the Championship (pay) courses do not come close to bringing in the amount of money the sale of a new home does, so you have to kind of figure: if you have shelf space in your store, and stocking one item brings a LOT more profit than stocking another item that might be a convenience and help to the customers who come in, but on which there is nearly no profit, or even is a "loss leader" item. So golf courses could be an attractive "loss leader" for this business. Also, how would any resident know how many MORE times that traditionally reserved for the villages sales department, are now being held back ? Are even more allotted to the sales department now that the square miles of the V's have grown exponentially. So couple those possibilities with the great increase in people owning "chains" of properties for short term rental, that demographic too has definitely increased since many years ago when the "typical" winter residents were 2 people to a home they either owned (and did not rent out when not occupying), or renters would stay an entire winter. Just so many changes that combine to cause major dysfunction, can't blame ONE thing, except perhaps lack of adequate contingency planning while adding one village after another. Kind of like a Ponzi scheme, they finally collapse but always look very successful until the end ! ?

Yes, that is interesting. I doubt I'd be that interested after I moved, but, people have various quirks, especially to all social media sites rather personally relevant to them or not I suppose ? Others may just look back to try to determine if their decision to move is confirmed in their mind ? Remember, a good part of human nature is: YES, I KNEW I was right ! People seek "confirmation".

Don't think who ever is "in charge" has counted on many people thinking in those mathematical terms as you have !

Absolutely true, no way is the issue that simple, just build that new course is far from a solution because it does not address the roots of the problem ! Treating chronic illness with aspirin to keep the "fever" down, does NOT solve, or even address, the actual problem.

We too finally just quit trying to play during "snowbird" season, but then, "snowbird" season started getting longer, and longer, and longer, and with the dramatic increase in AB&B and so many other short term rental companies, the number of units that once were unoccupied many months, has now increased tremendously. That impacts the whole amenity picture too.

It was not a real situation. He was explaining how to move a person around between foursomes. In reality, the reason you might want to do this is to compress the players down into a lesser number of foursomes and free up an entire tee time. Regardless, a empty spot still exists.

This is an interesting concept. With more rentals, there are probably more rentals with 4 adults vs the old days when a house had 2 adults.

Thanks. Still hope for a single getting to play.

I also moved here mostly for the golf. Lucky now to get two nines in a week. Unfortunately when I try an alternate activity such as pickleball I find long lines and when I go to the pool their are no lounges etc.. One of the problems is that the Villages allows short term rentals. I have seen their competition using this in their marketing against TV Also, it seems as if the Villages continues to build, build , build without the recreational infrastructure. They are famous for "Nickel and Dime" or are they increasing profits in anticipation of a sale? Anyway, Sharing our experiences via reviews of the Villages Development Co. may put some pressure on them.

How so. I could play every day if I wanted to, no problem at all.

Come on, you know the answer to your question. Very easy to get Championship T Times at $75+ per round. The poster is referencing Executive T Times that are part of the sunk cost amenity fees. Totally different animal.