Most amateurs do something else wrong(like swaying to their right) which lifts their head and after missing the shot they scream I lifted my head.

There are many golfers who keep a GHIN Handicap Index yet are very liberal with their own rules (rolling the ball in the fairway, gimmees, etc.) rather than the rules of golf. BTW - the only D. Wilson listing The Villages as their home course has an H. I. of 23.6.

Sorry to hit a nerve. As a high handicapper and a finance stats guy, I find the stats very interesting, as I have no other means of analyzing golf shot data. Golf with its GHIN index, slope and rating, and Pro players, has alot of common knowledge misinformation. I wasn't suggesting his skill level or his index as anything relevant, but more as my only source of golf stats for referencing performance versus handicap.

peace out. .

Golfers always seem to have a misconception about how good they are, how good the guys on TV are, as well as the expected quality of their shots.

To throw a local connection at the wall. 1st Stage of Korn-Ferry Qualifying begins to today at the Country Club of Ocala. It was previously scheduled for 2 weeks ago, until the hurricane interrupted things. All the other 1st Stages are complete.

@SkeenJackson is competing there. Jackson is a +6.2 Index (GHIN - United States Golf Association Service). He has NO status on any Tour in the world. He's trying to make it through the 1st Stage to qualify for the Korn_Ferry Tour ... there are 2 more Stages before he makes K-F (the PGA Tour is a long way away).

So let's put things into a local perspective.

If Jackson came down to visit and played Mallory Hills (Caroline to Virginia, the tougher routing), from the BLACK Tees, he would be playing at +7. He would have to shoot 65 to "play to his handicap". 7 UNDER Par. He would have to average about 67 to maintain that handicap..

Jackson barely slips into the Top 3000 AMATEURS in the world, at #2954.

What's been happening in golf over the last 20 years of so is ... I'll use a economics description ... elasticity of the performance curve.

The very best Professionals (the guys we see on TV) have gotten significantly better than the days of Palmer & NIcklaus. Advances in equipment have allowed the Pros to distance themselves from the average players and surely from the typical "hacker". Scratch players used to watch golf on TV and think, "geez, with a few months of practice, I could play with these guys". Now? Any PGA Tour player could give the typical scratch player, 4-5 strokes a side and beat him like a drum. My club in NH has 12 guys with + handicaps.

Golfers don't realize how poorly they play, in relation to what they see on TV and end up with unrealistic expectations.

In fact, what they're watching on TV are freakishly talented professionals, that mere mortals have no hope of ever emulating.

@Loustagner is great at reminding folks of how badly they play.

Learn to read and comprehend.
Never said "there isn't any teacher in the Villages that can teach him anything."

Not me T, thanks for checking.

:loco::loco:

FUNNY, your posts, your opinions are presented as fact. chilout

Not seeing a lot of "experts" on TOTV, seeing a lot of suggestions to the OP's question.

Your 1000 different golfers, if true, is less than 1% of The Villages.
I have played with a frequent poster and he plays only Black & Gold Tees.

siBUM, don't know how many low handicappers you know ("As a golfers handicap gets lower his ego gets higher."), but the frequent poster enjoys the game, helps people if asked, laughs at himself and has no ego.

Enjoy your morning coffee.

An Index of 23.5 in The Villages, almost qualifies as a "good golfer" :1rotfl:

I have played with/against ex professionals in three different sports, a long time ago, in my 20's: actual competition, pickup and fun organized.

There is a huge/immense/ginnormous/intergalactic difference between amateurs and professionals, to which most people can't relate. There are gazillions of couch potato judgers, who can spew/type like their egos believe, but try actual competing with them sometime, and experience the differences.

they are freakishly talented, but also gives one hope that a golf shot out of the rough, or just missing the green, still making par or bogey at worst is not impossible. . . .

[QUOTE=It's Hot There;2382722]FUNNY, your posts, your opinions are presented as fact. chilout

Not seeing a lot of "experts" on TOTV, seeing a lot of suggestions to the OP's question.

Your 1000 different golfers, if true, is less than 1% of The Villages.
I have played with a frequent poster and he plays only Black & Gold Tees.

siBUM, don't know how many low handicappers you know ("As a golfers handicap gets lower his ego gets higher."), but the frequent poster enjoys the game, helps people if asked, laughs at himself and has no ego.

Enjoy your morning coffee.

[/As a golfers handicap gets lower his ego gets higher

Same goes for pickleball players, tennis players. But, that different. In golf, billiards, darts, bowling, ect… you have no one to blame but yourself. In Pickleball, tennis, baseball, football, and dozens more sports you have others to blame cause they not up to the entitled standards that lowers you play due to their inabilities.

Not impressed
 

What type of instructor appeals to you? How often do you get lessons? What are your goals? What technologies do you prefer?

I used to play golf a couple of times a week, with a guy who had an MBA from Harvard and consulted to major corporations around the world. He also happened to be a former All American Defensive Back.

He loved to play golf. 4-5 times a week, at an expensive private club. Never kept score. He has no idea of what his scores were. He enjoyed the 1 or 2 shots he hit pure every round and that's what it was all about for him. I often don't keep score. I only count how many Pars or Birdies for the day.

I would be in the low 80's average if I didn't blow up 3-4 holes, so I also just count pars and bogeys. . . this year was my first for eagle opportunities with two. . however, with longer season and more practice opportunities in TV, I am hoping to shoot my age decade someday. . including the cattail pitch and putt. . : :jester:

Folks who are fairly new at golf, are often confused by the "goal". Golf is not (at this level) about making good shots ... it's a game of minimizing your bad shots.

Want to try an experiment (I stole it from Tom Watson, so I don't want credit if it works)?

Everyone has a club or 2, they love and seem to hit well most of the time. Go play some day and just use that club, unless you're in the sand or around the green. Use it (or one of 2) for every shot. I'll bet you $5 you'll shoot your best round ever.

It's a tough game. Jackson Skeen shot 84 today, in the 2nd round of 1st Stage at CC of Ocala.
First Stage- FL 1 - First Stage Leaderboard | Korn Ferry Tour Q-School

It will probably take a score of -11 or -12 to make it through 1st Stage. He's probably out of it (no cut at Q School). Golf is hard.