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Originally Posted by Donb0975 (Post 1743860)

The championship courses are owned by the developer and the exec courses by the districts. The championship courses were maintained by ASG but not owned by that company. The developer had a contract for maintenance that the developer now has taken in over.

The developer has NEVER done the maintenance on the golf courses. There are several companies that do the maintenance. ASG is one company, Down to Earth, Bright View etc.

I wouldn't mind the rate increase as much if the courses here were at least interesting in design and in top shape. To me, they are boring, similar looking designs done by the developer just to maximize the real estate properties. Just my opinion. I prefer to play "off campus" at courses that are in fine shape and interesting enough to make me want to play them a second time.

The Executive course are still "free" We all have to make choices and live with the consequences.

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1743792)

Executive courses and championship courses are two different and seperate entities. Take some time and learn the difference. Your confusion will go away.

Also, I highly recommend signing up for Resident Acadamy.

I'd be interesting in learning about the differences. Is it in writing somewhere? I'm new to TV. I will take your recommendation about the Resident Academy.

Yes, this does help

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1743815)

Fact: the Championship Courses are owned by the developer, they always have been. The developer sub contracted the management of the courses to a company called GMS. The course maintenance is sub contracted to several private landscaping companies. About 1 1/2 year ago the Villages took over the running of the Championship courses. The ambassadors, starters, pool people, inside staff all work for the villages. The rates are set by the management team that oversees the total operation of the Championship Courses. All 12 courses work under this umbrella.

Fact: All the executives courses north of 44 are own buy the districts. But the districts sub contract with the villages to staff them. The districts have complete control over the rates and the operations.

I hope this helps

Yes, this does help. Thanks for the info. IMHO the greens fees on the courses seem high in comparison to other courses with similar conditions. For what its worth, I think given all the play the courses get, the prices could be a bit lower. Other courses have lower fees and still remain in business. It's free enterprise, yeah I get that....people are free to not play or go elsewhere. But I do understand how people feel a bit like they are being taken advantage of. They think of TV as more of a community developed for the good of the residents. Yeah, I know it's not that way, but there is a big sense of community in TV.....maybe it's just a bit fantasy...but it is there.

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Originally Posted by ronda (Post 1743929)

I'd be interesting in learning about the differences. Is it in writing somewhere? I'm new to TV. I will take your recommendation about the Resident Academy.

Village Community Development Districts
Golf The Villages
Good Golf School
https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf...e.pdf?v=032917
https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf...heVillages.pdf
https://www.golfthevillages.com/championship-golf/
https://www.golfthevillages.com/executive-golf/

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1743291)

As an resident that is not priority I am not happy that I am only paying $2 less than a priority guest. That just doesn’t seem right.

Best post on this topic

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Originally Posted by mowdie (Post 1743964)

Best post on this topic

But we knew the rates before we moved here right?

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1743911)

I wouldn't mind the rate increase as much if the courses here were at least interesting in design and in top shape. To me, they are boring, similar looking designs done by the developer just to maximize the real estate properties. Just my opinion. I prefer to play "off campus" at courses that are in fine shape and interesting enough to make me want to play them a second time.

The "developer" is not a golf course architect. Palmer designed 2 of the 3 nines at Legacy. Nancy Lopez designed the course with her name. John Mahaffey helped design Glenview. Professional golf course architects designed the rest. But congratulations on finding a new way to bash the "developers"

that should be your biggest problem right now

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1744036)

I've seen better designs by these designers. Must have been lowest bidders.

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1743969)

But we knew the rates before we moved here right?

Exactly, we knew the rates before we moved here. But the rates now are nowhere close to when we moved here, and the rate escalation totally blows away the inflation rate since we moved here. It seems like the price of golf increases along the same lines as the price of health care! Go figure?

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1744728)

I've seen better designs by these designers. Must have been lowest bidders.

Keep in mind the primary purpose for the land on which the golf courses sit. Storm water control. Golf course design comes in second.

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1744821)

Keep in mind the primary purpose for the land on which the golf courses sit. Storm water control. Golf course design comes in second.

Absolutely. It certainly shows.

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1744993)

Absolutely. It certainly shows.

Yes, it shows. A hurricane passed over us and no homes were flooded.