Very sad state of affairs!!!!!

The initial two vaccines that were approved had an 88% effective rate and a 95% effective rate. However when I find strange is that as a golfer he certainly do not have to be anywhere near any other golfer to play the sport with the exception of his caddy. Here's a guy who lost out on one and a half million dollars roughly for really no reason except politics

Sorry to say I don't know where you got your statistics but the actual test rates when the first 30,000 were done for each vaccine Where 88% and 95%. I can quote where I got where did you get yours? And by the way the j&j statistics are much much less

Here’s is the story. He had been notified that he had been in the company of someone who had tested positive for COVID. Upon hearing this he was tested for COVID and tested negative. This was on Wednesday. He then received his first shot of the vaccine. He tested negative again on Thursday. On Friday he positive. Under the PGA protocol the ran the test again on the sample he given Friday to make sure it was not a false positive. On Saturday while he was on the course the test came back positive again. As he walked off the course he was met by the PGA doctor who informed him of the second positive test. This is when Rahm said not again. They said that the vaccine shot he had received did not have enough time to give him immunity.

It was interesting to see that after they informed him and prepared to escort him off the green, he was surrounded by several guys and hugged. Obviously, those folks that hugged him and closely escorted him from the course, were NOT concerned about contagion. It was just an observation. I would not have been concerned either, considering I've had my vaccination and I am sure they probably had theirs also. If so, it seems like the rules are a bit outdated. Just my opinion, but it seems hardly necessary to remove the guy, if he has no observable symptoms and the majority of folks are either too far distanced to be exposed or have already been immunized. I do realize that one can be asymptomatic and contagious, but like I said what is the chance that anyone was in danger of being infected at this point? Just my observation, since I have not shared the same hysteria and panic others seem to allow to rule their life.

I have 1,674,000 reasons why he should have been vaccinated. The winning purse for the tournament. And he got zero.

This is a special kind of stupid!
Tired of this crap!
Wrong on so many levels.
Playing outside…in the wind….
Others in group had immunity. They were okay with him continuing .
He was a symptomatic .
What the test set at? Should have gotten second test.
Bottom line….someone wanted him out of tournament. He should sue

Spot on
 

Spot on. The PGA followed their policy protocol. Unfortunate for Jon Rahm. He has handled it well IMHO.

Rumors. I heard he refused to be vaccinated hence……..we’ll not really know until he speaks about it…if ever.

Nope. The saddest is that this was totally preventable, and it was 100% his choice. Some people won’t take yes for an answer.

So, a guy with the China Virus plays what might be his greatest round of competitive golf. He feels fine too. Too bad he got the jab cuz he's all set now and didn't need to get the shot.
Got to wonder how many other golfers would take a mild dose of CV to shoot a career round of golf
And why couldn't the PGA let him play a final round by himself, with observers?

And when are those checks arriving from China to pay for what they did to the world?

The last time I checked golf is played outside. No reason to worry about covid. Just don't kiss anybody.

Interesting the PGA kept fans away, then allowed limited fans with masks.
This gave the appearance the players & caddies were clean and vaccinated.
My question, why let players play if not vaccinated??

$$$$$$

Seriously, good for him? Possibly spreading the Virus. Money over possibly the lives of others. Great choice?

The PGA screwed the pooch on this one!
 

Here’s what gets my goat. If Rahm’s positive test was so freaking critical, why did they let him continue playing!!!?

They should have immediately pulled him from competition and not allowed him to potentially expose hundreds (thousands?) of peers, officials, fans, etc.

To me, it lessens the importance of the test and risk because the PGA allowed Rahm to play through 18 THEN pull him from the tournament.

No, he was vaccinated AFTER contact with someone who had it...

He most like already had it when vaccinated, but was asymptomatic...

And you know his lack of vaccination was political how?

Prezactly!

Rules are rules don't like em don't play

Just putting this out there. He’s outside participating in a non contract sport while maintaining social distancing.

Ohiobuckeye
 

I was just sick when I heard that. He plays 3 days except hole 18 on the 3rd day & then they can him from the tournament. When they tested him & everyone else on the first day, why everyday of the tournament, heck some people get tested once when they go into a store so why didn’t they test every person into a store everyday afterwards. They should of left his score stand & like it ended up nobody shot -17. What would they of done if several players tested positive (say 5,6, 7 or 8) canceled the tournament! At least Rahm was a good sport about it. What a shame!

The rules keep changing...

Do some research - Rahm was not vaccinated! I heard he is an anti-vaxxer. If so, serves him right!

He did know the PGA rules and took a gamble. Unfortunately, he lost.

He gambled away 1.7 million. A very expensive lesson.
Hopefully, the other players and caddies will get vaccinated.

Proof of mass hysteria. Also proof that they have no common sense OR there was someone there that was out to get him.

Should have let him continue by playing by himself. He’s already been in close contact with his caddie. He obviously wasn’t too sick to play.

If he had been exposed to Covid on May 29th he should have been quarantined for 14 days. He never should have been able to play in that tournament in the first place. Now who has he exposed??!!

Sorry to say but this is what all the nonvaxers have to look forward to. You wanna get on that boat? You wanna play sports? You wanna go see sports....gotta get the vac. If this is what will open their eyes, so be it.

New's break: A cruise line will not be requiring vaccination for it's cruises. I believe it's Royal Caribbean that will NOT be requiring proof of vaccination.

Such a pity for him, but it sure made it more of a dramatic ending with the tie.

And I'll be happy to quote where I got mine----THE CDC----good enough for you??????

You are confusing the efficacy rate from the clinical trials with the real world breakthrough rate post mass vaccinations. They are NOT the same thing

"Rare breakthroughs
Of the more than 95 million people in the United States who were fully vaccinated, only 9,245 — or 0.01 percent — have been infected with the coronavirus as of April 26, according to the CDC. Just over a quarter of those people never had symptoms; 132 people, or 1 percent of the breakthrough infections, died. Twenty of those deaths were in asymptomatic people or probably not related to COVID-19."

People continue to get this wrong. It is probably not their fault because the way the statistics were presented could have been better and most people probably do not understand how to interpret the statistics. What was presented from the Phase 3 trials for Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna was an efficacy of about 95%. This number, which is statistically significant, is the ratio of the number of positive cases from the test (vaccine) group and the number of positive cases from the control (placebo) group. Each group had about 20,000 participants. The efficacy represents the reduction in the probability that you will develop the disease if you are exposed and vaccinated when compared to someone who was exposed and not vaccinated. 95% is a factor of 20x. In other words, your probability of developing the disease if exposed and you are vaccinated is reduced by a factor of 20x when compared to someone who is exposed and not vaccinated.

The actual percentage of positive cases for the test (vaccine) group for the Pfizer Phase 3 trial was about 0.04% (this is the test group breakthrough percentage during the Pfizer Phase 3 trial). The actual percentage of positive cases for the control (placebo) group for the Pfizer Phase 3 trial was about 0.8% (this is the control group "breakthrough" percentage during the Pfizer Phase 3 trial).

The J&J efficacy rate was less than the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy rates but you should not make comparisons. First of all, the purpose of the efficacy calculation is to determine if the vaccine is effective at what it is designed to do. Secondly, the populations of the Pfizer and Moderna trials were much different than the population of the J&J trials. Any attempt to compare the efficacy between trials with significantly different populations is going to have issues.

Essentially, all three vaccines are effective at preventing serious disease and death. While there are breakthrough cases, the probability of winding up in the hospital or dying is very remote if you are vaccinated. The latest CDC guidance reflects this. There are medical professionals who have suggested that you choose which vaccine to receive based on which one is more readily available where you live.

No. Decline the vaccine because he was told he didn’t need it. We that was a costly mistake on his part because he already had covid

What are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why do people continue to post crap they know nothing about??????Actually, because they are intent on perpetuating a false narrative to fit their wants, just like many discussing a lot of issues facing our country today.

Such as?

Three other PGA golfers were disqualified from previous tournaments after testing positive for COVID-19, so I don't they were picking on Rahm.

Ohiobuckeye
 

Jimkerr, who would of ever think like the article said, he had it checked everyday of the tour. who would of thought the very nexted day it would checked positive. But your right he knew what the rules of the PGA. He knew that & he took it graciously!

All sports have become Bull s_ _T