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sianagers@att.net 07-26-2025 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by terryf484 (Post 2448535)
It appears that there is still a major problem with Executive Golf courses maintenance. Just a few cases, Bonita Pass was closed to fix the greens several months ago. When it reopened, the greens were excellent. Golfed there just before they closed it again, several greens were damaged by what appeared to be by the mower, big brown areas. Pelican just reopened and the day we golfed it the green on hole 5 had by damaged by what appears to be the mower. Just this week, we played Roosevelt, which had been recently renovated, and the greens had numerous brown streaks in them and full of crab grass. Seems like it is wasting a lot of money to renovate these courses and then ruin them by poor maintenance.



Likely should be mowed twice a week and not with the type
Of mowers they are using!!! There is a better type that doesn’t ruin the greens!! I noticed that too

sheena0904 07-26-2025 07:07 AM

I’ve seen y’all’s skill level on the executive courses. You guys aren’t good enough to be complaining the way you do. Better conditions would probably make your scores worse 🙂

UpNorth 07-26-2025 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolson08 (Post 2448682)
My suggestion is to remove all the bunkers from the executive courses and put that maintenance money toward keeping the greens in better shape. Most executive golf course players don't need to be playing out of bunkers and imagine the pace of play benefits!

Remove the sand and turn them into grass bunkers. Won't be easy to get out of but will fix one maintenance issue.

Janie123 07-27-2025 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2448560)
All Executive Course (owned by the District) maintenance is contracted out, under the supervision and direction of Donald Jones.

The previous Director of Executive Golf Maintenance left in January, Mitch Leininger. I'm not sure it was relevant, in an interview with Don Wiley, he claimed to have a Degree in Turf Management from Penn State ... he did not. Also, the complaints about Executive Course maintenance were off the charts.

The new guy was hired without a 4 year degree in Agronomy, as was required by the Job Posting.

Not that I'm questioning that the District hires only the best and most qualified.

The degree from PSU is specifically for golf course superintendent and sports field management. It’s highly specialized in that direction.

alwann 07-27-2025 12:45 PM

Posting re exec course
 
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Originally Posted by Old Traveller (Post 2448591)
Posing your question on this web site will not solve your question. Attend a PWAC meeting and ask them your question. Daniel Jones attends one of these monthly meeting once a quarter. I'm sure you are smart enough to figure out which one he attends. Or write a letter to the CDD representative who represents your district at the PWAC meeting, and have your representative ask Daniel the question.

There's website that reports conditions of the exec courses. Executive Golf Maintenance

Too bad it hasn't been updated since 2023. Communication is the essence of good customer service. In this day and age, one shouldn't have to attend a meeting to comment, ask questions, or get updates. I doubt whether Mr. Jones reads this board.

Rainger99 07-27-2025 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2448970)
There's website that reports conditions of the exec courses. Executive Golf Maintenance

Too bad it hasn't been updated since 2023. Communication is the essence of good customer service. In this day and age, one shouldn't have to attend a meeting to comment, ask questions, or get updates. I doubt whether Mr. Jones reads this board.

This is the district’s review of the courses.


Golf Course Maintenance - The Villages Community Development Districts

kkingston57 07-27-2025 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GpaVader (Post 2448572)
Here's an idea, what about have a sandbox at each tee box. Not everyone has a sand bottle, especially if they are walking...

Great idea as long as people use it

kkingston57 07-27-2025 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Traveller (Post 2448591)
Posing your question on this web site will not solve your question. Attend a PWAC meeting and ask them your question. Daniel Jones attends one of these monthly meeting once a quarter. I'm sure you are smart enough to figure out which one he attends. Or write a letter to the CDD representative who represents your district at the PWAC meeting, and have your representative ask Daniel the question.

A good superintendent is needed but bet the bottom line is that the course maintenance is under funded. How many times do we hear complaint about rising fees. Fertilizer alone has doubled in price over past 5 years

kkingston57 07-27-2025 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolson08 (Post 2448682)
My suggestion is to remove all the bunkers from the executive courses and put that maintenance money toward keeping the greens in better shape. Most executive golf course players don't need to be playing out of bunkers and imagine the pace of play benefits!

Great idea. Holes like #2 at Oakleigh are almost impossible for 99% of anyone who can not hit a more lofted iron. Most people do not know this but building/maintaining bunkers are more costly than greens

tophcfa 07-27-2025 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolson08 (Post 2448682)
My suggestion is to remove all the bunkers from the executive courses and put that maintenance money toward keeping the greens in better shape. Most executive golf course players don't need to be playing out of bunkers and imagine the pace of play benefits!

Disagree. Like to play the Executives for practice. I put little emphasis on the putting, because most greens don’t resemble conditions on the Championship courses and I don’t want to throw off my game for when I’m paying good money to play real golf. Practicing ball striking off the tee boxes, and bunker shots, are the reason I play the Executives (plus my wife likes those courses). Sometimes I hit into the bunkers purposely so I can get some practice. Of course, I often have to rake the bunker and place my ball because it’s in an unraked footprint.

BrianL99 07-28-2025 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2449032)
Most people do not know this but building/maintaining bunkers are more costly than greens

Most folks don't know it, because it's not true. Not even close.


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