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dewilson58 04-08-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2319655)
It is true that, nationwide, total participation in golf started decreasing about 15-20 years ago. However, most of the decline was with millennials and the two biggest factors were that golf took too much time and that it was too expensive.

And if you advertised yourself as the golf capital of the world and one of your top marketing features was “free golf for life,” and you were the fastest growing area in the country, you would want to build more courses to keep up with demand and population growth.

Actually, the millennials are more active than the groups around them:
Generation Swing
Different generations have their take on the game:

In 2021, 4% of Gen Z Americans (born between 1995-2012) picked up a club and said they played golf. For Millennial Americans (born between 1980-1994), 12% embraced the sport in 2021. As for Generation X Americans (born between 1965-1979), 7% joined the ranks of golf enthusiasts in 2021.


Each of these groups are their future......boomers are dying. :cryin2:

Good thing............their advertising is still true. Golf Cap of World & Free golf for life.

dewilson58 04-08-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2319683)
Be thankful for the pitch and putts....you don't want many of us who play them to be clogging up play on executives if they didn't exist. And for people moving to The Villages who have never played golf, they are the perfect introduction to the game.

So true.

Bay Kid 04-08-2024 08:02 AM

They were built so you could always find a tee time.

Altavia 04-08-2024 08:46 AM

Some of the Level 1 Exec's are close to being P&P courses but you can use your golf cart.

JMintzer 04-08-2024 03:00 PM

Simple answer:

Because they didn't have enough land for an Executive course on those areas...

The southern area along Morse/Meggison is VERY narrow and with the Southern Oaks course taking up so much space, there simple wasn't enough land for more executives.

The area with more land mass (Marsh Bend, Fenney, De Luna) has what 5 Executive courses?

Now that they're expanding west and south of the Turnpike, there are huge tracts of land that can handle more golf courses. Three (a championship, an Executive and a Pitch & Putt) are scheduled to open later this year, with more already scheduled or under construction...

Altavia 04-08-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2319822)
Simple answer:

Because they didn't have enough land for an Executive course on those areas...

The southern area along Morse/Meggison is VERY narrow and thith the Southern Oaks course taking up so much space, there simple wasn't enough land for more executives.

The area with more land mass (Marsh Bend, Fenney, De Luna) has what 5 Executive courses?

Now that they're expanding west and south of the Turnpike, there are huge tracts of land that can handle more golf courses. Three (a championship, an Executive and a Pitch & Putt) are scheduled to open later this year, with more already scheduled or under construction...

They also probably want enough space to have high profit premium golf course view lots around the course that add $250K+ to the purchase price of a home.

JMintzer 04-08-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2319829)
They also probably want enough space to have high profit premium golf course view lots around the course that add $250K+ to the purchase price of a home.

Why wouldn't they?

MrFlorida 04-09-2024 07:21 AM

They are good for new golfers to practice on, instead of using the executive courses.

Dave951 04-09-2024 02:02 PM

Just reading the replys. A level one executive course would have been perfect at Mickey Lee. Similar to Turtle Mound or Sarasota

JMintzer 04-09-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave951 (Post 2320147)
Just reading the replys. A level one executive course would have been perfect at Mickey Lee. Similar to Turtle Mound or Sarasota

Except, it wouldn't fit...

Turtle mound is more than twice the yardage the the front 9 of Mickey Lee...

Rainger99 04-09-2024 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave951 (Post 2320147)
Just reading the replys. A level one executive course would have been perfect at Mickey Lee. Similar to Turtle Mound or Sarasota

I agree. Plenty of room for nine holes - if they had wanted to do it. Play 1 red box to green 2; 3-4; 5-6; etc. Plenty of room for nine holes -especially if you use the land for the putting course.

JMintzer 04-09-2024 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2320167)
I agree. Plenty of room for nine holes - if they had wanted to do it. Play 1 red box to green 2; 3-4; 5-6; etc. Plenty of room for nine holes -especially if you use the land for the putting course.

Then why didn't they put one in? It would have many many more people happy, right?

Maybe, just maybe it was because they would need more than TWICE as much land to build an executive course?

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2024 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2319829)
They also probably want enough space to have high profit premium golf course view lots around the course that add $250K+ to the purchase price of a home.

Is that bad? Why?
So, build it they will come.

Papa_lecki 04-09-2024 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2319829)
They also probably want enough space to have high profit premium golf course view lots around the course that add $250K+ to the purchase price of a home.

I heard they got a HUGE premium for the lots around Mickeylee P&P. Especially the lots on the west side of the course.
Same for all the lots around Richmond P&P - I heard it was a $400,000 premium on the west and south side.

Altavia 04-09-2024 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2320192)
Is that bad? Why?
So, build it they will come.


They need enough room for the golf course PLUS land for homes with a view around the course.

This was not possible north of the Turpike.


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