Anyone know how Orange Blossom Hills is coming along?

It is supposed to reopen this fall. Wonder if some of the new homes will be built and the restaurant leased?

I agree with you regarding the greens, as well as the courses in toto. I firmly believe that Golf Management Systems (GMS), which controls all of the courses, championship and executive as well, contracts out to landscapers, not greens keeping companies that know how to maintain a golf course. I am also told by one of the employees with the maintenance companies, that GMS dictates to the contractors the amount of money that will be spent on maintaining the greens. He told me that the latest professional greens keeper companies (1 Source) complained to GMS that they were not allowed to do a quality job at the price dictated.....they are now gone.

The executive courses are NOT owned by the "developer". They owned by the various CD Districts.

Depends on which courses you are talking about. All courses north of 466 plus the Pimlico group are owned by the central CDDs (VCCDD or SLCDD). The other courses are still owned by the developer. When the IRS situation is finally settled, the amenities south of 466, including the executive courses, will be sold to the central CDDs.

The residential CDDs will not own the courses.

Not true!

Please provide your source because what I posted is what I have been told by district personnel and GMS personnel.

From the District website:

The Executive Golf Trail consists of over 30 courses and growing every year. While the Country Clubs are owned and operated by the developer of The Villages, the Executive Golf Trail courses are owned and operated by the Village Center Community Development District and the Sumter Landing Community Development District.

I recently had a discussion with Eric VanGorder, Director of Executive Golf Maintenance, that involved his role with the courses south of 466. He informed me that he has a cooperative relationship with GMS regarding maintenance, but they have primary responsibility for the courses until the developer transfers them to the district. That should occur when the IRS question is resolved and bonds can be issued by the central districts to purchase the amenities.

What is not true? Please explain

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY concur! I moved here, within the last 12 months, from southern Michigan. Last I knew there were over 20 public courses in the county I resided in. I played most of them, some frequently. NONE of them were in as poor condition as ALL the course in the Villages - championship or executive. Even the worst courses, the ones we avoided unless we had to, had grass on the greens and you got a true roll on a putt. Some fairway and tees could be choppy, but even those are better than NO grass! I can't figure out why any of us pay to play the championship courses, in their current condition (but I still do it)......

I'd love to putt on greens that stimped at 5. That would mean they actually had grass on them!!! You are missing the point, we want grass on 100% of the greens and fairways. After that we can figure out how short they should be mowed. I think a whole lot higher than they mow them today, since they are so short that the ball simply sits on dirt!

You are missing the point. We expect "some" value for what we pay for. We pay for the executive courses (whether you play them or not) and we pay more when we golf on the championship courses. Are we wrong to expect grass to actually be cultivated on them?

post reviews on public media ......posting your views on tv does nothing .... calling management does nothing start giving the views on public websites so the public will be aware of the poor golf course conditions at the villages.

Just read that the courses are much better.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ens-tv-118148/