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BlackHarley 11-04-2022 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by collie1228 (Post 2154244)
What is a Henley collar? Never heard of it.
Damn. At first read I thought it said 'Harley' shirt. Well I got plenty of them, all colors and logos!

Chamo 11-04-2022 06:55 AM
Ridiculous next Publix is going to tell us we have to be properly dressed to go in
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2154226)
I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.
Ridiculous the next thing Publix is going to require proper attire to go food shopping

midiwiz 11-04-2022 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2154226)
I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.
Personally IMHO, who really cares what anyone wears playing any "sport"? even at the driving ranges, women have FAR more leniency than men. They can go out there practically in anything they want, should go both ways. It makes zero sense, and frankly it really shouldn't matter what you wear.

This is why Lewis Black portrays golfers like he does......

retiredguy123 11-04-2022 07:08 AM
In my opinion, the biggest issue regarding the dress code is tee shirts because a lot of Villagers wear them every day. I doubt that banning tee shirts really has a positive effect on the golf courses.

MandoMan 11-04-2022 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2154226)
I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.
Just wear a shirt with a collar and avoid the aggravation. Donate all your non-conforming shirts to Goodwill.

DaleDivine 11-04-2022 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2154435)
In my opinion, the biggest issue regarding the dress code is tee shirts because a lot of Villagers wear them every day. I doubt that banning tee shirts really has a positive effect on the golf courses.
I have seen golfers(?) wearing logo tee shirts at executive course. I asked starter if it was ok. They just shrugged shoulders and said no big deal.
I remember when I moved here in 2014, you could not wear a tee shirt at Sarasota driving range. They would not give you range balls if no collar. Even small boys. Then that gradually went away.
:D:D:BigApplause:

toeser 11-04-2022 07:54 AM
This is why I ride bicycle.

collie1228 11-04-2022 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2154245)
It looks just like a tee shirt, but it has 3 or 4 vertical buttons in the front, near the top. It is like a polo shirt, but it doesn't have a collar.
Oh, thanks. I have a few of them, but never knew they had a special name. I always refer to them as button tee shirts. And I wouldn't wear them on the golf course.

flash4353 11-04-2022 08:15 AM
Related topic: Who is the most officious and/or rude starter.
 
There are some real jerks working in the starter shacks. After being a full-timer in The Villages for 10 years I am going to compile a list with pictures some day.

ex34449 11-04-2022 08:44 AM
WOW! With all the worlds problems... golf attire.
I think if it's anything, it's a reason to stay away from the pasture pool.

davefin 11-04-2022 08:52 AM
Come on people. Let's just play the game of golfing. Yes, even wearing jeans while golfing is allowed here in The Villages!

Photoman 11-04-2022 09:59 AM
The dress code is ridiculous. Wear clothing that respects the game. A guy I golf with wears jeans, he’s fine. He also wears old cargo shorts with paint stains and an old polo shirt that he’s worn for yard work for years, he’s fine. My wife purchases a beautiful golf outfit from a sporting goods store. It has a popular golf logo in it. “You can’t wear that top, the straps are too narrow.”Seriously???!!

HORNET 11-04-2022 10:14 AM
When golfing ( in The Villages) don’t dress like a slob, leave the tee shirts and jogging shorts at home! And when having your grandchildren with you, have them wear proper golf attire ( Country Club Style) !

HORNET 11-04-2022 10:18 AM
Just dress up and enjoy the day

Two Bills 11-04-2022 10:25 AM
I admit I am an old dinosaur.
But.
I believe in the dress code.
Collared shirts, no denim, and tailored shorts for golf.
When going out to dinner in evening wear a shirt and trousers, not dressed as if for a day at the beach.
Even Presidents and prime ministers addressing the nation without a suit and tie on.
Swearing when ladies are present.
If you pander to the lowest common denominator, why expect any respect from those around you.
Be different.
Show a bit of style and class!


(Steps down from box, under a hail of abuse and rotten fruit!)

HORNET 11-04-2022 11:04 AM
Just dress like a true golfer

bark4me 11-04-2022 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2154263)
Soon be 'wife beaters' and 'overalls.'
Golf world is going to hell in a handcart.
They will be starting another Tour next!
So you're saying that if one wears a tank top then they beat their wife? I find this post offensive, stereotypical, inflammatory and prejudice!

Two Bills 11-04-2022 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bark4me (Post 2154554)
So you're saying that if one wears a tank top then they beat their wife? I find this post offensive, stereotypical, inflammatory and prejudice!

Comprehension not your best subject at school then?

Babubhat 11-04-2022 11:38 AM
It’s what a worn out tee shirt collar looks like. Hideous

Velvet 11-04-2022 01:04 PM
In my opinion, dressing appropriately shows respect for the game, a long honored tradition, and respect towards your fellow golfers. I am not sure why if someone didn’t want to do either, would want to play golf on a Village’s golf course?

dewilson58 11-04-2022 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2154582)
In my opinion, dressing appropriately shows respect for the game, a long honored tradition, and respect towards your fellow golfers. I am not sure why if someone didn’t want to do either, would want to play golf on a Village’s golf course?
agree.............but don't forget, we have A LOT of non-golf golfers swinging the stick out there.

:throwtomatoes:

Pgcacace 11-04-2022 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2154231)
This is from the districtgov.org website:

"Dress Code for Men
Shirts shall have a collar and sleeves. Turtle-necks or mock turtle-necks are acceptable. (Min. 1/4 inch collars.)"

The collar only needs to be 1/4 inch. My Land's End tee shirts have a 3/4 inch collar. So, I assume that they are acceptable.
Can you imagine tbe uproar if a clothing rule was applied to pickleball players ? 😂😂😂

Burgy 11-04-2022 01:35 PM
Old joke?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2154226)
I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.
What's a Henley. Answer: Eggs

jimmy o 11-04-2022 01:39 PM
The whole issue is that The Villages does not want you looking like a bum when you play golf. This has always been an issue throughout the USA. Golf is considered a Gentleman’s ( or Ladies) game. Nearly all golf courses throughout the World have a dress code. You don’t like it, take up mud wrestling. Realize most golfers go in clubhouse after golf for the famous 19th hole. They should be dressed appropriately.

dewilson58 11-04-2022 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2154594)
The whole issue is that The Villages does not want you looking like a bum when you play golf. This has always been an issue throughout the USA. Golf is considered a Gentleman’s ( or Ladies) game. Nearly all golf courses throughout the World have a dress code. You don’t like it, take up mud wrestling. Realize most golfers go in clubhouse after golf for the famous 19th hole. They should be dressed appropriately.
:BigApplause:

Velvet 11-04-2022 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pgcacace (Post 2154587)
Can you imagine tbe uproar if a clothing rule was applied to pickleball players ? 😂😂😂
Pickle ball? Seriously are you comparing Pickle ball to golf? That’s a hoot! And I do play pickle ball.

sasman29 11-04-2022 02:54 PM
Tiger
 
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2154242)
How about, if you can golf like tiger woods, you can wear a Henley collar.

I originally thought you were talking about those mock turtle necks he wore 20 years ago, had to google Henley collar
Got to love this answer. A caveat would be under 10 handicap

Papa_lecki 11-04-2022 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pgcacace (Post 2154587)
Can you imagine tbe uproar if a clothing rule was applied to pickleball players ? 😂😂😂
There is a clothing tradition in pickleball - it is shorts and a t shirt.
There is also a clothing tradition in tennis - i.e tennis whites. It is not applied on most venues.

But you would not wear cut off jeans and a flannel shirt to play pickle or tennis.

lawgolfer 11-04-2022 05:11 PM
No, Dan Newlin doesn't go to court. Few plaintiff's attorneys do. Arbitration and mediation are their forums where they have friendly, retired judges who favor plaintiffs as, otherwise, they do not get repeat business.

eweissenbach 11-04-2022 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2154594)
The whole issue is that The Villages does not want you looking like a bum when you play golf. This has always been an issue throughout the USA. Golf is considered a Gentleman’s ( or Ladies) game. Nearly all golf courses throughout the World have a dress code. You don’t like it, take up mud wrestling. Realize most golfers go in clubhouse after golf for the famous 19th hole. They should be dressed appropriately.
No the issue is the person that started this thread was denied the right to play a course because he was wearing a shirt that had an approved collar. I have two Henley collar shirts that I have worn numerous times over the years with no questions asked. Had I been told I could not play I would have referred them to their own poster of approved apparel and said I will be on the tee box at my approved tee time.

tophcfa 11-04-2022 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2154582)
In my opinion, dressing appropriately shows respect for the game, a long honored tradition, and respect towards your fellow golfers.?
In my opinion, how one dresses is only one very small way of showing respect for the game. Respecting the game includes many things, including but not limited to: Showing up on time for a t time, not moving when fellow golfers are hitting, playing ready golf, not driving one’s cart near greens, t boxes, sand traps, or wet areas, filling divots, fixing ball marks on greens, raking sand traps, not walking on fellow golfers putting lines, removing and replacing the flagstick for fellow golfers, picking up clubs on the green for fellow golfers, always being ready to hit your next shot, clearing a green quickly when done with the hole, following the rules of golf, and most importantly, playing fast. It also never hurts if you can tell a few funny jokes during the round : ) and don’t go postal after hitting a bad shot.

I would much rather golf with people dressed like bums who respect the game by their actions on the course than play with people more concerned with fashion than being a respectful golfer. And in this modern world of equality, what’s up with the unequal relaxed dress code for women? On a hot and humid 100 degree day I wouldn’t mind playing with a lightweight collarless and sleeveless shirt like many women do!

Billy1 11-25-2022 04:05 PM
Cut a collar off of an old shirt, store it in your golf bag, clip it to your incorrect shirt when needed.

fdpaq0580 11-26-2022 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2154642)
But you would not wear cut off jeans and a flannel shirt to play pickle or tennis.
OOPS! My bad!
😯

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-26-2022 09:59 AM
I've never heard of a Henley collar. My understanding of a Henley shirt was one that was a long sleeved tee shirt with no collar but with buttons down the front of a placket.

kkingston57 11-26-2022 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jimschlaefer (Post 2154226)
I know there's a quick, easy, brute force solution to this dilemma, but I've gotta start this thread anyway. Not too long ago, proper attire for a golf outing included, for men at least, a collared shirt. Then Tiger Woods came along wearing a Henley collared shirt and the PGA decided, "if it's good enough for Tiger, it's good enough for all". Well, The Villages Golf organization decided to go along with that PGA position and changed their requirements for men's shirts to include Henley collared shirts. They even updated their 'Proper Attire' poster to include a blue Henley example. Then the dilemma came about when going to Executive Courses (haven't tried this on the Champion Courses yet) at tee time while wearing a Henley collared shirt and being told it was not proper attire. Even when the poster showed a Henley on it. Now this isn't ALL Executive Courses, but seems to follow specific individual starters more than anything. It's tough showing up at a specific course where you have played in a Henley before and have a different starter tell you, you're under-dressed and can't tee off. How can we get everyone on the same page?? Apparently not all starters either know the rules or have decided to interpret them as they see fit. One starter told me I was wearing a Henley, but the collar wasn't high enough so he considered it a tee-shirt.

And before anyone suggests the easy fix "wear a collared shirt and the dilemma doesn't exist", I get that. This is about seeking some consistency. That's all.
Rules are crazy in TV. Men can wear jeans. I know of a guy who looks like he just got off a farm tractor before playing golf.

Inexes@aol.com 11-26-2022 04:53 PM
One of my life's most embarrassing moments... I arrived at Lopez GC, checking in, when this nasty female employee behind the counter shouts out..... You can't play in that shirt. I was wearing a white cotton, modest V-neck shirt with short sleeves. it had 3 pleats down the back and a drawstring blouson type waist. She kept insisting it was made out of t-shirt material...... yes, plain white cotton ????? This woman would not let up against all the other employees trying to tell her it was OK. Even had to bring the manager out to approve the shirt. I was never so embarrassed and it sure ruined what could have been a fun day on the course. Some people just have to try to exert their authority.... I will never forget her..... lol.... should name her...

BrianL99 11-26-2022 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2154676)
In my opinion, how one dresses is only one very small way of showing respect for the game.

...

I would much rather golf with people dressed like bums who respect the game by their actions on the course than play with people more concerned with fashion than being a respectful golfer. And in this modern world of equality, what’s up with the unequal relaxed dress code for women? On a hot and humid 100 degree day I wouldn’t mind playing with a lightweight collarless and sleeveless shirt like many women do!
The rules are changing most everywhere, other than The Villages. I've played Farm Neck on Martha's Vineyard in jeans, numerous times ... didn't matter if Bill Clinton or Barack Obama was playing that day ... they could wear 'em too.

Clubs all over the country are eliminating "dress codes" for golfing, particularly at many expensive clubs. A guy drops $100,000 on an Initiation Few & $15,000/year to play and someone is going to tell him how to dress? I don't think so.

You don't agree? Look at how Corporate American has changed over the last 15 years ... you can hardly find anyone who wears a suit and tie to work or anywhere else.

It's the 21st Century, stop being mired in the past and get on the program. As the poster I quoted said, it's more important how you behave on the golf course, than what you're wearing.

As for the guy in the Henley, good for him for standing up for himself ... same for the guy in Carhartt shirt.

tophcfa 11-26-2022 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160957)
The rules are changing most everywhere, other than The Villages. I've played Farm Neck on Martha's Vineyard in jeans, numerous times.
One of my favorite courses, great views of the ocean, marshes, and the salt water pond where the classic scene from Jaws was filmed where the shark swam under the bridge between the ocean and the pond. Did many back flips off that bridge at keg parties during the summers I spent on the Vineyard in my college years.

JGibson 11-26-2022 11:00 PM
The dumbest thing is a collar shirt on Palmer driving range. I've been confronted 3 times wearing a nice dri fit shirt about it not having a collar in 95 degree weather. Pathetic.

tophcfa 11-26-2022 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2154401)
It also used to be that blue jeans were not allowed on the course. But apparently that rule has been thrown out the window. Outside courses say "No denim or tank tops". But in The Villages you can come from the corn harvest right to the golf course. (Yes, I'm from Iowa.)
The late Gary Morse preferred wearing denim blue jeans golfing. Since he owned the courses in the Villages, he made the rules. His children have carried on the tradition.


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