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TStVillages 04-20-2025 04:31 AM
We rollover ties $$ and add it to the next week’s pot.

golfing eagles 04-20-2025 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2425743)
The answers so far would be not be correct, unless you were playing sans handicaps.

If you were using handicaps ....

First off, you're not obligated to use the USGA Tie Breaker recommendations. If you opt to used them in a handicap event, here they are:

USGA Tie-Breaking Method (Net Scores):

1. Last Nine Holes:

Compare the net scores for the last nine holes, deducting 50% of the Course Handicap from the gross score for each player. ®

2. Last Six Holes:

If still tied, compare the net scores for the last six holes, deducting 33.33% of the Course Handicap from the gross score for each player. o

3. Last Three Holes:

If still tied, compare the net scores for the last three holes, deducting 16.66% of the Course Handicap from the gross score for each player.

IF you were playing a "Scramble" type event, you were not playing "Golf" per USGA Rules, so all bets are off.
You are technically correct, but it sounds like it was an informal exec course outing, in which case I doubt they used handicaps (or even had GHIN handicaps). The OP did not specify the format, so if it was a scramble, there are no rules. If it was a best ball, I would think the general rule applies. At their level of golf, however, they can probably do whatever they like, and someone will be put out by it no matter what that is. Which is why there are rules in the first place.

BrianL99 04-20-2025 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2425796)
You are technically correct, but it sounds like it was an informal exec course outing, in which case I doubt they used handicaps (or even had GHIN handicaps). The OP did not specify the format, so if it was a scramble, there are no rules. If it was a best ball, I would think the general rule applies. At their level of golf, however, they can probably do whatever they like, and someone will be put out by it no matter what that is. Which is why there are rules in the first place.
I'm not sure much TV Executive Golf is played by any rules, other than the rules that get made up in the loudest player's imagination.

I'm always fascinated when playing the Championship courses, where people are paying $80-$100 to play and when they hit it in the water, they ask ... "what do I do here" ? Familiarity with "USGA rules" is a novel concept in much of TV.

(& not immediately being 100% up to speed on an esoteric recommendation on "Tie Breaking", doesn't fall into the "I'm not sure of the rule" side of the equation.)

Janie123 04-20-2025 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425681)
Just a question please.

3 teams played 9 holes today and all 3 teams ended up 1+ (over).

Team 1 bogied hole one and parred the next 8. (+1)

Team 2 parred the first 8 and bogied the ninth. (+1)

Team 3 bogied holes 1 and 2 but birdied hole 6. (+1)

Who won please?
My groups all use best scores from 9 backwards. If a quota system is being played, then you could add up a team’s points earned on 9 backwards. I do have one group that just splits the money. If there were multiple places paid, say 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, use the money for the places equal to the number of ties… in your case, take 1,2,3 and divide it for the 3 winners and 4th gets the last few $$$. If a dollar is left, it goes to the worse golfer of the day.

Yours sounds like a scramble with only one score, so for now, divide the money 3 ways and define tiebreakers for future games BEFORE you start to play.

thevillages2013 04-20-2025 05:44 AM
It’s too late now BUT I would pay $4 to unsee this thread

golfing eagles 04-20-2025 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2425811)
It’s too late now BUT I would pay $4 to unsee this thread
And therein lies the problem----we can't unsee it.

swooner 04-20-2025 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425681)
Just a question please.

3 teams played 9 holes today and all 3 teams ended up 1+ (over).

Team 1 bogied hole one and parred the next 8. (+1)

Team 2 parred the first 8 and bogied the ninth. (+1)

Team 3 bogied holes 1 and 2 but birdied hole 6. (+1)

Who won please?
Who cares?

sdeikenberry 04-20-2025 06:15 AM
Typically groups use the back up system to break ties. Starting with hole nine, which team scored best on the ninth? If a tie which team scored best on the eighth? If a tie look st the seventh…until one team emerges. That team wins.

Rainger99 04-20-2025 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425681)
Just a question please.

3 teams played 9 holes today and all 3 teams ended up 1+ (over).

Team 1 bogied hole one and parred the next 8. (+1)

Team 2 parred the first 8 and bogied the ninth. (+1)

Team 3 bogied holes 1 and 2 but birdied hole 6. (+1)

Who won please?

1. Scorecard Playoff (Counting Back): This method compares scores starting from the last hole (hole 9) and works backward until a team has a better score on a hole. However:
- Team 1: Bogey on hole 1, par on holes 2-9.
- Team 2: Par on holes 1-8, bogey on hole 9.
- Team 3: Bogey on holes 1 and 2, birdie on hole 6, par on others.

Tiebreaker:
On hole 9, Team 2 bogeyed (+1), while Teams 1 and 3 parred (0). This eliminates Team 2. However, comparing Teams 1 and 3 backward from hole 8, both parred holes 8 through 7, but Team 3 birdied 6 and Team 1 parred it.


Conclusion: Using a scorecard playoff tiebreaker (counting back from the last hole), Team 3 wins because they scored a birdie on hole 6, while Team 1 had a par, and Team 2 was already eliminated due to their bogey on hole 9.

Rainger99 04-20-2025 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425686)
Thank you. Money was involved. So there was a payout dispute on who came in first. Team 1 thought they won and team 3 thought they won. I was just happy to be out golfing !!!!!
Why did Team 1 and Team 3 think they won?

And how was it decided? Did you agree to go with the TOTV consensus?

Kjbatl 04-20-2025 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425681)
Just a question please.

3 teams played 9 holes today and all 3 teams ended up 1+ (over).

Team 1 bogied hole one and parred the next 8. (+1)

Team 2 parred the first 8 and bogied the ninth. (+1)

Team 3 bogied holes 1 and 2 but birdied hole 6. (+1)

Who won please?
One league I play in starts at hole 9 and work backwards to find the lowest score on a hole to break the tie. By those rules, team 2 is third place,, team 1 second and team 3 first. I agree with others that it should be a split this time and clarify the rules for future events.

txfan 04-20-2025 06:57 AM
Unless a tie-breaking hole was designated, it's a three-way tie, or as someone else suggested, roll the pot to the next time.

USGA rules aren't applicable when gambling.

SaucyJim 04-20-2025 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2425811)
It’s too late now BUT I would pay $4 to unsee this thread
Why $4 when you can turn away anytime you like for free?

Now, I’ll move on (for free) but cannot unsee this comment.

SaucyJim 04-20-2025 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 2425821)
Who cares?
What a stupid question. Who cares? The OP cares or would not have asked the question.

Why the bitterness, people? We’re blessed by technology, but turn it into an opportunity to spread bitterness.

“Be excellent to each other.” — Bill & Ted

RTrevilian 04-20-2025 07:50 AM
payout for tie breakers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2425681)
Just a question please.

3 teams played 9 holes today and all 3 teams ended up 1+ (over).

Team 1 bogied hole one and parred the next 8. (+1)

Team 2 parred the first 8 and bogied the ninth. (+1)

Team 3 bogied holes 1 and 2 but birdied hole 6. (+1)

Who won please?
A group that I use to play in, tie breakers were decided by the score from the first Hole. But this should have been decided before teeing off.


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