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alemorkam 02-10-2011 09:32 AM

I played yesterday at Glenview. Was first off second wave at 11:56. made front nine in two hours. Got to back nine and 4 groups had gone off between 1:30 and 2:00 for nine holes. They were couples played nine hole worse ball scramble. They were extremely slow. However, the Course Pro, Ken went out and made them move along after the ambassador went in to tell him they were holding up the whole course. Thank you Ken.

Fourpar 02-10-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alemorkam (Post 329748)
I played yesterday at Glenview. Was first off second wave at 11:56. made front nine in two hours. Got to back nine and 4 groups had gone off between 1:30 and 2:00 for nine holes. They were couples played nine hole worse ball scramble. They were extremely slow. However, the Course Pro, Ken went out and made them move along after the ambassador went in to tell him they were holding up the whole course. Thank you Ken.

Wow! That must be a first, certainly the exception. My experience with Ambassadors is that they are loath to offend anyone, even the very slow with hole(s) open in front of them. Kudos to this Ambassador and Pro! :BigApplause:

Taj44 02-10-2011 07:57 PM

Awesome! Way to go, Ken.

katezbox 02-11-2011 12:02 PM

I think good golf goes back to "The Golden Rule" or "What I learned in Kindergarten."

1. If you are new to TV or the game - go to good golf school

2. Think about how you like it when you have to wait and wait at tee boxes. Yes (some) are retired - but it is no fun playing when you feel there are others breathing dson your neck.

3. Follow the pace of play for the course - when I play with novices, I ask them to pick up once they are 2 - 3 shots over par (on the 4's and 5's). Then they can put out with the rest without causing undue delay. Hacienda is much shorter than Palmer and should play more quickly.

4. If you are a beginner, start with the easier execs and play in the afternoon. That way id you fall behind, you can skip a hole and it costs you nothing.

5. Try to keep pace with those in front of you. However, having said that, you may have a two- or three-some ahead of you. I think if you are at or faster than the pace of play that you need not pick up your ball. I know some of you disagree - but IMHO pace of play is the goal, keeping up is a quick pulse check to ensure you are doing just that.

6. You can speed up play by having your club ready, your shot in mind and your eyes on the balls that all of your group hits to minimize time in looking for lost balls.

Remember - holding people up, if you are slower than the pace of play, is rude. We finished Orange Blossom last week in 4:01 - we were sometimes on pace with the threesome ahead of us, and occasionally they were a bit ahead. We had to wait on 1 or 2 holes. We were hit into a number of times... that is REALLY rude!

l2ridehd 02-11-2011 12:59 PM

When people hit into you, they really just made a mistake, so just tee it up and hit it back to them and wave. Just being friendly. :wave:

Mikeod 02-11-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 330081)
When people hit into you, they really just made a mistake, so just tee it up and hit it back to them and wave. Just being friendly. :wave:

And that's when the fight started! :22yikes::1rotfl:

Having been hit before, once in the head, I am REALLY sensitive about someone hitting into our group. One time, OK, an accident. You get a friendly wave to remind you it was too close. Twice? Grrrr. Don't bother looking for your ball. It has gone bye-bye. :wave:

katezbox 02-11-2011 03:55 PM

You are right - sometimes it can be an accident. My hubs and I were playing Hacienda (Palms) and the group ahead of us had to wait and had gone down to the edge of the water to get a better look at some eagles. We had seen their carts further up, then they disappeared so we wrongly assumed (yes, I know) that they were moving up to the green.

I had not been playing a driver much and tried out my husband's that day on a couple of longer holes. I hit that sucker over 200 yards (a feat I have yet to repeat). When we got around the hill and saw the guys ahead of us I nearly died! I apologized; they took it in stride.

Kate (who is usually happy to reach 165 off the tee)

Taj44 02-12-2011 09:46 PM

200 yards!!....you animal!..lol.

On another note, we played Mallory recently. It had been in poor condition a month or so ago, but I'm glad to report it seems to be improving. The greens were okay, and the fairways have filled in some so you get a decent lie most of the time.

The pace of play could have been better though. We went from Caroline to Virginia. Front nine was 2 hours, back nine was 2 hours and 45 minutes, ouch! The excuse was the morning wave got 25 minutes behind. I do wish they wouldn't let that happen. The last 2 times I've played its been slow the 2nd nine like that.

katezbox 02-13-2011 07:36 PM

LOL Taj...

Played Hibiscus to Jacaranda with the hubs, Dirigo and another friend. It was a bit slow, took about 4 hours and 30 minutes to play. But it was the front nine that was slower - maybe because Hibiscus is so tough?

k

chacam 02-13-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Qballgreg (Post 305307)
Rules of Golf state that when you have an open hole in front of you and golfers behind you are waiting, step aside and let the faster group play through...no big deal. If you wish to play a 5 hour round of golf, that is fine, just don't expect everyone behind you to do likewise....let them play through.

What rule would that be ?

katezbox 02-13-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chacam (Post 330612)
What rule would that be ?

While not in the Rules of Golf - this from the USGA Gold Etiquette 101 on their website...

Pace of Play

Play at Good Pace and Keep Up

Players should play at a good pace. The Committee may establish pace of play guidelines that all players should follow.

It is a group's responsibility to keep up with the group in front. If it loses a clear hole and it is delaying the group behind, it should invite the group behind to play through, irrespective of the number of players in that group.

golf2140 02-13-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 330122)
You are right - sometimes it can be an accident. My hubs and I were playing Hacienda (Palms) and the group ahead of us had to wait and had gone down to the edge of the water to get a better look at some eagles. We had seen their carts further up, then they disappeared so we wrongly assumed (yes, I know) that they were moving up to the green.

I had not been playing a driver much and tried out my husband's that day on a couple of longer holes. I hit that sucker over 200 yards (a feat I have yet to repeat). When we got around the hill and saw the guys ahead of us I nearly died! I apologized; they took it in stride.

Kate (who is usually happy to reach 165 off the tee)

Kate,

Please help, I need a lesson.

:BigApplause:

schotzyb 04-09-2011 10:08 PM

We found out today that slow play is not just on The Villages Championship courses. We played Stonecrest today and it was miserably slow. We waited at least 3-5 minutes on each shot on every hole.

graciegirl 04-10-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 330122)
You are right - sometimes it can be an accident. My hubs and I were playing Hacienda (Palms) and the group ahead of us had to wait and had gone down to the edge of the water to get a better look at some eagles. We had seen their carts further up, then they disappeared so we wrongly assumed (yes, I know) that they were moving up to the green.

I had not been playing a driver much and tried out my husband's that day on a couple of longer holes. I hit that sucker over 200 yards (a feat I have yet to repeat). When we got around the hill and saw the guys ahead of us I nearly died! I apologized; they took it in stride.

Kate (who is usually happy to reach 165 off the tee)

Had been thinking how much fun it would be to play golf with you, Pooh, PTurner and ......................just crossed you off the list.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taj....I am going to ask you again...Were you playing in the Champion of Champions tournament?

Back to slow pace of play on Championship courses...........

Sorry Topicop..

graciegirl 04-10-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 330623)
While not in the Rules of Golf - this from the USGA Gold Etiquette 101 on their website...

Pace of Play

Play at Good Pace and Keep Up

Players should play at a good pace. The Committee may establish pace of play guidelines that all players should follow.

It is a group's responsibility to keep up with the group in front. If it loses a clear hole and it is delaying the group behind, it should invite the group behind to play through, irrespective of the number of players in that group.

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