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Xavier 09-20-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 749298)
We shall see. As we continually witness our other "leaders", words alone do not make it so��

btk

What, pray tell, could you be talking about? Could it be the inability of parties to work together to form a common leadership. Oh dear, what a unique concept. You really only need to be familiar with three words: YES, NO, and Maybe. The easiest of the three is NO. The others require some flexibility and thought. Let us pray. Amen.

Xavier

ilovetv 09-20-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 749231)
I agree. It is about time that the Catholic Church got back to the profound teachings of Jesus Christ rather than the various much more worldly manipulations of the church-state. It seems so much more spiritual while also actually aiming at the type of life Jesus himself tried to live.

I agree also. It IS about time!

The face of the Church and the door to the Church has to be Jesus Christ, NOT mere mortals who make themselves a KGB force whose mission is to form a select group in a hunkered-down enclave of "orthodox", self-righteous people focused on man-made religion and polishing their halos because of their exagerrated piety.

Their proud piety makes them no more acceptable in God's presence than any other slob who believes in Christ and clings to Him for forgiveness and salvation in eternity.

Human pride and false pretenses about it are always a ticket to downward spiral, beginning with Adam and Eve.

Xavier 09-20-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 749315)
I agree also. It IS about time!

The face of the Church and the door to the Church has to be Jesus Christ, NOT mere mortals who make themselves a KGB force whose mission is to form a select group in a hunkered-down enclave of "orthodox", self-righteous people focused on man-made religion and polishing their halos because of their exagerrated piety.

Their proud piety makes them no more acceptable in God's presence than any other slob who believes in Christ and clings to Him for forgiveness and salvation in eternity.

Human pride and false pretenses about it are always a ticket to downward spiral, beginning with Adam and Eve.

Yikes! You shouldn't hold-back like that - let it out woman. Let it all out. You'll feel so much better.

Xavier

graciegirl 09-20-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 749346)
Yikes! You shouldn't hold-back like that - let it out man. Let it all out. You'll feel so much better.

Xavier

Um...she's a girl.

and if you don't stop bickering, I'm tellin' sister.

kittygilchrist 09-20-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 749315)
I agree also. It IS about time!

The face of the Church and the door to the Church has to be Jesus Christ, NOT mere mortals who make themselves a KGB force whose mission is to form a select group in a hunkered-down enclave of "orthodox", self-righteous people focused on man-made religion and polishing their halos because of their exagerrated piety.

Their proud piety makes them no more acceptable in God's presence than any other slob who believes in Christ and clings to Him for forgiveness and salvation in eternity.

Human pride and false pretenses about it are always a ticket to downward spiral, beginning with Adam and Eve.

Amen, sister sinner, I too confess pride and arrogance and judging people.
Kitty, "slob who believes in Christ and clings to Him for forgiveness and salvation in eternity."
ps God bless the Pope for carefully expressing love for sinners. I think he knows he's one of us; he's only human.

Xavier 09-20-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 749358)
Um...she's a girl.

and if you don't stop bickering, I'm tellin' sister.

...change of gender noted in previous post. Please don't tell on me, Gracie.

Xavier

ilovetv 09-20-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 749346)
Yikes! You shouldn't hold-back like that - let it out woman. Let it all out. You'll feel so much better.

Xavier

Yikes?

Christ's Passion has evoked passionate responses for thousands of years.

Thank goodness the pope is not dispassionate.

bkcunningham1 09-20-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 749369)
Amen, sister sinner, I too confess pride and arrogance and judging people.
Kitty, "slob who believes in Christ and clings to Him for forgiveness and salvation in eternity."
ps God bless the Pope for carefully expressing love for sinners. I think he knows he's one of us; he's only human.

Yes. Amazing Grace.

chachacha 09-20-2013 04:35 PM

i don't think any popes recently have implied that they were not sinners...Pope Francis is getting to the heart of what Christianity requires, love for ALL of our fellow human beings. this does not imply that he thinks abortion or same-sex marriage is desirable or biblical, he just wisely wants us to focus on loving one another. i love the part about asking a wounded man on a battlefield if his sugar is high! there is so much more to every person than their sins. please find something to love about me and i will try to do the same for everyone else.

graciegirl 09-20-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 749616)
i don't think any popes recently have implied that they were not sinners...Pope Francis is getting to the heart of what Christianity requires, love for ALL of our fellow human beings. this does not imply that he thinks abortion or same-sex marriage is desirable or biblical, he just wisely wants us to focus on loving one another. i love the part about asking a wounded man on a battlefield if his sugar is high! there is so much more to every person than their sins. please find something to love about me and i will try to do the same for everyone else.


THAT is easy, Cha!

Challenger 09-20-2013 05:46 PM

Please Lord give me mercy, justice will fall way short in my case.

billethkid 09-20-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 749616)
i don't think any popes recently have implied that they were not sinners...Pope Francis is getting to the heart of what Christianity requires, love for ALL of our fellow human beings. this does not imply that he thinks abortion or same-sex marriage is desirable or biblical, he just wisely wants us to focus on loving one another. i love the part about asking a wounded man on a battlefield if his sugar is high! there is so much more to every person than their sins. please find something to love about me and i will try to do the same for everyone else.

the most accurate post on the subject to date!!

btk

bkcunningham1 09-20-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 749616)
i don't think any popes recently have implied that they were not sinners...Pope Francis is getting to the heart of what Christianity requires, love for ALL of our fellow human beings. this does not imply that he thinks abortion or same-sex marriage is desirable or biblical, he just wisely wants us to focus on loving one another. i love the part about asking a wounded man on a battlefield if his sugar is high! there is so much more to every person than their sins. please find something to love about me and i will try to do the same for everyone else.

I love the kindness you show everyone. You have a spirit of knowledge and grace that always makes me feel good.

rubicon 09-20-2013 08:36 PM

In my view the Pope took the politically correct path and it is exactly why society will never have the serious conversation it needs on these complex issues. I mean who is going to argue with "Jesus loves us all" On the other hand the bible explains the genesis of sodomy So who you gonna believe?

M prediction is if this Pope continues down the same path may well create a second Reformation

PennBF 09-21-2013 07:33 AM

Raised
 
One time a member of the church where my father was a preacher asked our mother why she was a member of our denomination and religion and my mother said "because I was raised that way". I think that speaks a thousand. We are all raised in a religion and in 99.999% of the cases that is what we follow for our lives. In some cases people don't actually know why they are different from another denomination. We should all respect the other person's religion and remember to follow the golden rule. :read:


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