Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2423963)

We have many shuttered facilities for auto manufacturing that could be reopened within weeks too. I say bring those incomes back from Canada and Mexico. Let’s pay Americans to do those jobs first.

Steel plants could fire up production within the month.
US Steel will cut jobs, close plants, move HQ from Pittsburgh if Nippon sale fails, CEO warns

Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2423862)

Why should Thailand, or any other country be penalized for making goods for American companies?
Corporate America are the ones who took industry away from the American workers in pursuit of higher profits. Let them pick up the tab for the import tariffs.

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2423541)

why do we want low paying and now largely automated manufacturing jobs when we do services so well and have a surplus in that respect with nearly every nation? China owns cheap manufacturing now - we need to get over it. The services industry includes Banking/finance, High Tech, Accounting, Tourism, etc. Isn't that what young people want?

Originally Posted by Sunnyme (Post 2423954)

Disagree completely, many foreign auto manufacturers have found a way to be competitive building cars and trucks in the USA. Subaru in Lafeyette IN, Toyota has 10 automotive plants in the USA, Honda in Marysville OH and there are more.
Other foreign manufacturers that do not have a US manufacturing presence but want to sell here need to also build here.

The USA manufacturers that have moved plants and jobs to Mexico and SE Asia need to be reeled in.

And for the folks that say manufacturing today in all done by robots,, someone needs to design that manufacturing system, someone needs to design and build the robots, someone needs to service and maintain the manufacturing system and the robots, someone needs to design and build the facility that holds the manufacturing system and the robots, someone needs so plan and organize the production of the manufacturing system someone need to schedule the shipping and logistics for the product that is produced, and on and on. These are all jobs that should be here in the USA. Manufacturing sites also increase the local tax base providing money for infrastructure and schools.
Be American-Buy American.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2423987)

Pakistan (using the same country as above for the example) a local student can easily pay less than $5,000 per year in tuition. They have to fund their own housing, living expenses, elective fees but if they live nearby at home, the additional cost is negligible.

You mean they not getting student loans for apartments, vehicles, vacations, and spring breaks in Cancun or Miami Beach? They haven’t been Americanized yet have they?

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2423541)

Seriously though (attached graphic), why do we want low paying and now largely automated manufacturing jobs when we do services so well and have a surplus in that respect with nearly every nation? China owns cheap manufacturing now - we need to get over it.

The services industry includes Banking/finance, High Tech, Accounting, Tourism, etc. Isn't that what young people want?

Originally Posted by salpal (Post 2423543)

agree....can you imagine Americans sewing blue jeans in a factory for very small wages? We want to encourage young people to STEM careers. People forget...the robots are coming. Do we want the USA to go back to the 1800's with factories? No, we want to be supreme in technology and all STEM areas.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423651)

Your upbeat message leaves me scratching my head... so often I hear now how this country CAN'T do anything anymore. Bullroar, all we need is some backbone and ambition.

No one takes into account the handouts that it takes to float the boat of all the jobless people here not to mention the crime involved with much of that joblessness. Take the whole picture into one's view and remember, no one is trying to eliminate everything, just balance it out. And as important as STEM is, it is not the end all answer to all employment problems. Not everyone wants to be a rocket scientist.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2424076)

One problem is that rocket scientists do NOT make as much money as Wall Street types. That's why not enough are going into STEM carriers.

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2423657)

The top 10 "quality of living" countries mostly have manufacturing as a low percentage of their workforce. We need to look for new solutions, not try old ones that have failed for good reason.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2424073)

Ideally, the jeans would be made on a ROBOTIC assembly line.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2424079)

We do need more bureaucrats though. Intelligent compassionate and well organized ones.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423651)

Your upbeat message leaves me scratching my head... so often I hear now how this country CAN'T do anything anymore. Bullroar, all we need is some backbone and ambition.

No one takes into account the handouts that it takes to float the boat of all the jobless people here not to mention the crime involved with much of that joblessness. Take the whole picture into one's view and remember, no one is trying to eliminate everything, just balance it out. And as important as STEM is, it is not the end all answer to all employment problems. Not everyone wants to be a rocket scientist.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2423751)

I find it strange that in this thread, no one has even mentioned a need for more people in the medical field, and in health care in general. You want more Americans to be home health aids for seniors who aren't ready for nursing homes yet? Maybe - give more Americans more incentive to qualify as home health aids. Right now, most of them in Florida are immigrants, because they can't FIND Americans who want to do the work.

We have a nursing shortage in Florida. We also have a physician shortage. And an orthopedic surgery shortage. The people who can afford the education necessary to get degrees, don't seem to be interested in those degrees. So we have to seek these professionals from other places. A doctor from Pakistan will be just as qualified to diagnose your hernia as a doctor from Toledo Ohio. If Toledo doesn't want to come to the party, then you need to suck it up, and learn to love the guy from Pakistan. The first step is to stop this "mass deportation" stuff and denaturalizing and cancelling green cards stuff. If they're here LEGALLY and haven't broken any laws while here, then leave them the heck alone and let them continue contributing to society and paying their taxes (yes, immigrants pay taxes).

Don't forget also, medical professionals from other countries pay MUCH less for their medical education than we do here in the States. So they can afford to work for less, when they get here. They have lower payments to pay off any loans, and some of them earn their degrees for free, courtesy of their country of origin.

In Pakistan (using the same country as above for the example) a local student can easily pay less than $5,000 per year in tuition. They have to fund their own housing, living expenses, elective fees but if they live nearby at home, the additional cost is negligible.