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chrissy2231 01-20-2023 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper1 (Post 2155937)
In today's Sun I see an advertisement by Edward Jones offering 12 month CD's with a rate of 4.65%. Is anyone on the forum familiar with this offering and how they can offer so much more than a bank. Thank you in advance.

i have their bonds. ibond 6.86%. treasury bill 4.8%

Aces4 01-20-2023 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by clouwho (Post 2156129)
Banks are charging EXORBITANT early withdrawal fees on CDs. 3 months up to ALL months if it is a very high interest rate

Read the fine print on everything!


Why would you withdraw early? Good planning precludes that from happening.

Aces4 01-20-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2156406)
Oh, there are so many variables that go into that decision but I will say that a majority of investors will agree with your “hardly a good investment” stance but there are many investors that are extremely conservative when they reach certain stages of life or don’t invest in the stock market. For those investors, 4% can be “a good investment” (Interest rate of change * investment portfolio exceeds inflation rate of change * expenses).

Careful planning has allowed us to ladder CDs from 4.00%-4:50%-4:75% through credit unions and banks, no fees. We have a reserve amount in a money market fund and a small balance CD at a lower rate which we will apply to this year’s RMD. With the social security increase, we are able to manage the raging, current inflation with the planned principle attrition. Everyone has different needs and requirements, as we know.

rmd2 01-20-2023 10:22 PM

If you get a brokerage account you will pay a management fee.

rmd2 01-20-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chrissy2231 (Post 2177907)
i have their bonds. ibond 6.86%. treasury bill 4.8%

That ibond quote is good for 6 months. Then they will set another rate. It could be higher/could be lower. Every 6 months the ibond sets a new rate.

retiredguy123 01-21-2023 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 2177946)
If you get a brokerage account you will pay a management fee.

There is no separate management fee with Fidelity. The brokered CDs listed on their website already have any fees built into the APY. There is a percentage fee if you turn over funds for them to manage, but that is optional, and you can allow them to manage only a part of your portfolio. Typically, that would be the individual stocks in your portfolio. It wouldn't make sense to pay them to select brokered CDs.

manaboutown 01-21-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 2177946)
If you get a brokerage account you will pay a management fee.

I currently have accounts at three separate brokerages: Ameriprise, Schwab and Vanguard. I pay no management fees as I manage my own investments and trade on-line without consulting or engaging an "advisor" in any capacity even though Ameriprise and Schwab have assigned advisors to me. I am certain the advisors are paid based on the size and number of accounts assigned to them. The brokerages of course make money on trade spreads, uninvested funds in accounts and in other ways. Ameriprise charges modest commissions but I rarely trade and have had the accounts since it was Olde Discount back in the 1970s which was bought by H & R Block after which Ameriprise bought the advisory business from H & R. Whew!

Stu from NYC 01-21-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2177936)
Why would you withdraw early? Good planning precludes that from happening.

Generally true but sometimes life gets in the way of planning.

Aces4 01-21-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2178183)
Generally true but sometimes life gets in the way of planning.

Believe me, I understand and thus the money market fund.

Michael G. 01-21-2023 04:36 PM

Worst thing about money market or savings accounts is the percentage can change over time.
Hopefully increase.

Stu from NYC 01-21-2023 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2178184)
Believe me, I understand and thus the money market fund.

But too easy to run out of money with a long retirement. I like mutual funds with good long term track record with manager not near retirement age.

Aces4 01-21-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2178290)
But too easy to run out of money with a long retirement. I like mutual funds with good long term track record with manager not near retirement age.

CD money is not as spendable as mutual fund money? I don’t quite understand your analogy but I do know our earnings and principle are FDIC and NCUA insured. We don’t have to pay any fees for our earnings.

Boomer 02-13-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2177975)
There is no separate management fee with Fidelity. The brokered CDs listed on their website already have any fees built into the APY. There is a percentage fee if you turn over funds for them to manage, but that is optional, and you can allow them to manage only a part of your portfolio. Typically, that would be the individual stocks in your portfolio. It wouldn't make sense to pay them to select brokered CDs.


I know. I have bought some for a short and shorter term. I was getting ready to do it again, but started over-thinking how long to tie up the cash.......

Sure, a CD is a known and it's good to have some knowns. And I have been waiting forever to get some return on cash......

But I could not decide how long to tie up the next batch......

I have been fretting about this for days.......How much? How long? I already bought a 4.7 something, so there it sits, and that's OK.....but I guess the thrill is gone.......

And soooooo, instead of buying a CD this time, I just spent the money on a utility that will pay me 4-ish. (not as much as a current CD rate would) It will never take me on a rocket ride, but the check will be in the mail, and there is always hope for gain along the way, and the term to hold is strictly up to me -- months? years? forever?

Hello, my name is Boomer, and I think I am addicted to dividends. (sigh)

manaboutown 02-13-2023 11:02 AM

Since I sold a couple investment real estate properties, one in 2022 and the other last month, I have put most of the proceeds into T bills, either 3 or 6 monthers as I will need 30%ish of my LTCGs for Uncle Sam come April 18th. I have been putting a fraction of the proceeds into mostly dividend paying stocks, slowly and carefully... I really do not understand where the economy is going so I am being cautious/

Ecuadog 02-13-2023 10:50 PM

Not for nothing... I believe my Vanguard sweep acount (Vanguard Federal Money Market Fund - VMFXX) has a current yield of 4.50%.


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