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dewilson58 08-25-2015 07:20 AM

Let's make some money today!!

:beer3:

Boomer 08-25-2015 08:15 AM

Maybe it's a good time to plug in a limit price for a stock you think you know pretty well.

Maybe the stock is having a bad quarter and has an ugly PE ratio now, along with being caught in the overall market drop.

Maybe the stock is testing its 52-week low and could (or maybe even should) drop on through it soon.

Maybe the stock pays a tidy dividend and is even one of the Dividend Aristocrats.

Maybe you understand what the company does and think what it does will always need to be done.

Maybe you think it is a stock that, though downright boring most of the time, lets you sleep at night.

And not a maybe, but for sure, I have no idea what I am talking about.

Along with the rest of you....and everybody else -- even though they might claim differently -- .......I am wondering......How low can it go? And is it time to plug in a limit price that feels OK?

ajbrown 08-25-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1103971)
Not to worry. I expect the DOW to bottom at around 5000. That's when I'll jump in.

Interesting as I was just reading the article below. Just one persons opinion of course, but never heard of the 'q' he talks about on page two.

Dow 5,000? Yes, it could happen - MarketWatch

outlaw 08-25-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 1104293)
Interesting as I was just reading the article below. Just one persons opinion of course, but never heard of the 'q' he talks about on page two.

Dow 5,000? Yes, it could happen - MarketWatch

Q ratio=total market value/total asset value

Boomer 08-25-2015 10:01 AM

When it comes to investing, the most important thing is to know your own tolerance for risk. Know your own instincts and your investment decisions will follow.

It is harder for today's retirees because CDs have no return and probably will not any time soon. I think that is why there are more relatively conservative investors who look for solid dividend payers. But, even so, there are those who choose to remain completely in cash because that is what lets them sleep at night. And, of course, there is the combination decision that is like having a moat.

The media must fill that 24/7 great maw with babble. We can find any opinion we want. But, the bottom line is your own opinion. Know thyself.

outlaw 08-25-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer;110***4
When it comes to investing, the most important thing is to know your own tolerance for risk. Know your own instincts and your investment decisions will follow.

It is harder for today's retirees because CDs have no return and probably will not any time soon. I think that is why there are more relatively conservative investors who look for solid dividend payers. But, even so, there are those who choose to remain completely in cash because that is what lets them sleep at night. And, of course, there is the combination decision that is like having a moat.

The media must fill that 24/7 great maw with babble. We can find any opinion we want. But, the bottom line is your own opinion. Know thyself.

I call it the sleep factor.

kittygilchrist 08-25-2015 10:41 AM

Thank God, I bailed when Greece tanked and China rumbled. Cash is ok.

rustyp 08-25-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1104352)
Thank God, I bailed when Greece tanked and China rumbled. Cash is ok.

Congratulations. I did the same for the very same reasons. FYI my financial adviser didn't give me a call STILL!

outlaw 08-25-2015 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1104264)
Let's make some money today!!

:beer3:

That didn't last long.

golf2140 08-25-2015 04:43 PM

Did anyone's F. A. contact them prior to this mess happening. I'm still waiting for a call !!

billethkid 08-25-2015 06:40 PM

If they are doing or have done their job they have already taken action. Most do not respond to what is happening today and try to give one advice for today's roller coaster rides.

How is your portfolio management is set up is a function of ongoing communications with the FA and not what to do about today's wild ride.

If you are fee based the above will have taken care of your strategy.

If you are commission based they aren't going to call you while the roller coaster is flying up and down the steep hills....also think about switching to a fee based FA.

Boomer 08-26-2015 07:56 AM

I am guilty of not paying enough attention. I just discovered that AAPL is a dividend stock. Not overly generous with the payout ratio, but it is something. Dividends that get too high and out-of-kilter bother me, anyway.

AAPL is starting to look a little staid to me. Staid but not too staid. I like that in a stock. I think I will look in at AAPL today, just to see how it is doing in these gyrations.

Disclaimer: This is not a stock tip. I have no credentials, no alphabet after my name. My AAPL comment this morning is only a musing. I know I probably do not have to disclaim because who would ever take stock tips from a screen name on the internet. :shocked:

gomoho 08-26-2015 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1104501)
If they are doing or have done their job they have already taken action. Most do not respond to what is happening today and try to give one advice for today's roller coaster rides.

How is your portfolio management is set up is a function of ongoing communications with the FA and not what to do about today's wild ride.

If you are fee based the above will have taken care of your strategy.

If you are commission based they aren't going to call you while the roller coaster is flying up and down the steep hills....also think about switching to a fee based FA.

The voice of reason. Only other thing I would add is use a planner not an advisor and be sure they have the CFP designation.

Gerald 08-26-2015 11:18 AM

The market is gambling you can win or loose. You cannot be a winner forever.

billethkid 08-26-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 1104722)
The market is gambling you can win or loose. You cannot be a winner forever.

Depends on when you do what.

The long term investor has only made out well with the stock market.

Just google the markets performance over the last 40 years the only notable direction in the long run is upwards.

And yes one can pick any specific time period and make a case for the downward blips.

DruannB 08-26-2015 12:41 PM

Two weeks ago my new financial advisor said this wouldn't happen. Then it did. I am so glad I only have about 25% of my retirement in the stock market.

gomoho 08-26-2015 06:10 PM

I would be interested if anyone that reacted by selling their stock would be willing to share how much they lost? I chose not to sell and at the lowest I was down about 25k

rjm1cc 08-26-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 1104895)
I would be interested if anyone that reacted by selling their stock would be willing to share how much they lost? I chose not to sell and at the lowest I was down about 25k

Remember you can still owe capital gains tax if sell. I.E. you bought the stock at 10, it went to 100 and fell to 80 so you lost 20. But you also lost the amount of the tax.

AJ32162 08-26-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1104912)
Remember you can still owe capital gains tax if sell. I.E. you bought the stock at 10, it went to 100 and fell to 80 so you lost 20. But you also lost the amount of the tax.

You only pay capital gains on the dollar amount that exceeds your capital losses. And since the original poster asked about those who sold their positions at a loss, the amount owed in taxes would be zero.

gomoho 08-27-2015 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ32162 (Post 1104922)
You only pay capital gains on the dollar amount that exceeds your capital losses. And since the original poster asked about those who sold their positions at a loss, the amount owed in taxes would be zero.

Perhaps I wasn't clear - I'm curious what the overall loss was if they sold, not just capital.


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