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Old 08-26-2023, 12:37 PM
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This says it all about Disney's mismanagement... https://mousetrapnews.com/bud-light-...-disney-world/
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Old 08-26-2023, 12:39 PM
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I bet Walt Disney is flopping in his grave to see how the new CEO is running Disney & keeping some of the unfortunate children from getting to see Disneyland! The CEO is running Disney like our govt. is running our country! He just to want to make a lot of money!
Case studies have shown the transition from an entrepenure in which the business was built on various values and principles that transitions to be run by accounts is fully profit motiviated, ie Disney. An exception would be Chic-Fil-A.
TV's will also make that transition over time and you will see many of the services drop and fee's increase, very likely probability it will be sold to a major corporation or perhaps file for a IPO.
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Old 08-26-2023, 12:43 PM
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When I was a kid my uncle & cousins would come down from the panhandle every Christmas to my parents house outside Orlando, it was a tradition. And the 8 of us could get into the MK would be able to get in for what would now be 3 person 1 day tickets. In the 90s when I was in High School I was a cast member at DW. Even in the early 90s prices did change but still was affordable, but I did notice that more big groups of foreign tourists were coming, much more than I remembered in the past. And the start of what is now “woke” special weeks where groups of another kind would come & you wouldn’t want to bring your children during those times in. But since Michael Eisner was replaced as CEO it seems like Disney decided to take advantage of their core base to become a greedy money monster, raising prices on everything each year even when they were still making good movies and getting surpluses on park admission and resorts people could afford, not to mention parking fees everywhere.
Seems to me that D only cares about making money and not being the place Walt envisioned where families could come to his parks to escape the real world for a day while still being able to afford it. But I guess that those massive amounts of foreign money coming from those BIG tour groups mean more to them than common people or even Florida residents, greed will bring D down and it will be of their own doing.
One important factor left out of that analysis is that of HEAT. Florida, the US, Europe, and much of the world are experiencing record HEAT due to climate change - due to cars, trucks, and golf carts with gas engines. Disney World customers are down because they are NOT stupid enough to pay high prices to stand in lines for long periods in the Florida sun. Florida is closer to the equator so 100 degrees in Florida is worse than 100 degrees in Chicago. People think that how hot you feel is governed by 2 factors ........temperature and humidity. But, there is a 3rd factor, which is how strong are the rays of the sun. To test this simply put your hand on any black car in the afternoon in Fl., Az., or Tx.
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Perhaps the "silent majority" is not so silent after all. Large corporate entities are learning, the hard way, that trying to be a social media influencer comes with a cost. If you are in the entertainment business, entertain me. Once you dip your toe into the ever dividing social media cesspool, I'm out.
OK but, one thing to be aware of is that in Florida, Disney World is the biggest single corporation and biggest employer. So, Disney World collects sales tax, and its employees spend a lot of money in Florida and buy property, which adds to the Florida tax intake. So when you "boycott" Disney World, you are hurting yourself and your state.
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Old 08-26-2023, 02:52 PM
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OK but, one thing to be aware of is that in Florida, Disney World is the biggest single corporation and biggest employer. So, Disney World collects sales tax, and its employees spend a lot of money in Florida and buy property, which adds to the Florida tax intake. So when you "boycott" Disney World, you are hurting yourself and your state.
That is not a good reason to support a company that does things that are against your principal.

One can even go to Universal and spend your money there.
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One important factor left out of that analysis is that of HEAT. Florida, the US, Europe, and much of the world are experiencing record HEAT due to climate change - due to cars, trucks, and golf carts with gas engines. Disney World customers are down because they are NOT stupid enough to pay high prices to stand in lines for long periods in the Florida sun. Florida is closer to the equator so 100 degrees in Florida is worse than 100 degrees in Chicago. People think that how hot you feel is governed by 2 factors ........temperature and humidity. But, there is a 3rd factor, which is how strong are the rays of the sun. To test this simply put your hand on any black car in the afternoon in Fl., Az., or Tx.
Good thing it hasn't been very hot @ WDW in July/August since... I don't know... Forever?

It was mid to upper 90's when we first took the my oldest daughter there some 35+ years ago, and it was hot the last time I went in the summer 15 years ago...

Hell, it was hot that last time I went for a daddy daughter trip with my 3 girls at the end of March, 7 years ago...
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Looking forward to Universal opening their new theme park Epic Universe in '25! Disney is old news. Isn't Apple buying Disney? That may possibly provide funding for new rides.
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One important factor left out of that analysis is that of HEAT. Florida, the US, Europe, and much of the world are experiencing record HEAT due to climate change - due to cars, trucks, and golf carts with gas engines. Disney World customers are down because they are NOT stupid enough to pay high prices to stand in lines for long periods in the Florida sun. Florida is closer to the equator so 100 degrees in Florida is worse than 100 degrees in Chicago. People think that how hot you feel is governed by 2 factors ........temperature and humidity. But, there is a 3rd factor, which is how strong are the rays of the sun. To test this simply put your hand on any black car in the afternoon in Fl., Az., or Tx.
Many, many, many of my friends and relatives will not come to Florida for the reason you have stated. Add bugs and hurricanes and they run the other way as fast as possible.
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Old 08-27-2023, 01:15 AM
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OK but, one thing to be aware of is that in Florida, Disney World is the biggest single corporation and biggest employer. So, Disney World collects sales tax, and its employees spend a lot of money in Florida and buy property, which adds to the Florida tax intake. So when you "boycott" Disney World, you are hurting yourself and your state.
Florida has no state tax because we rely on a tourist economy. Disney brings in quite a share of revenue for our state but they have to change to meet the demand of the new generation of families. Keeping things that worked decades ago is not going to cut it.
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This has everything to do with Disney+ streaming. All streamers are losing money, sans Netflix. Which is why there’s 2 strikes going on. I was at Epcot 3 weeks ago and Animal Kingdom last week. PACKED ( this is the slow time?) ! Not to mention Mickey’s not so scary Halloween nights is sold out every night. Parks are doing just fine.
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Perhaps the "silent majority" is not so silent after all. Large corporate entities are learning, the hard way, that trying to be a social media influencer comes with a cost. If you are in the entertainment business, entertain me. Once you dip your toe into the ever dividing social media cesspool, I'm out.
Indeed! Actions have consequences. And when those consequences hit the bottom line…well…

Disney is far from alone in this regard. The website rigorous themes dot com, in an article by Ben Levin, points out the dangers faced by companies who dabble in social change. But Disney has company in this regard: also affected by the “social change” phenomenon include Gillette, Nike, Pepsi and Bud Lite, as well as several others. There was a striking example of this just recently at the annual Sturgis motorcycle rally, which had pretty extensive coverage on YouTube. Bikers as a group have been known to indulge themselves in a beer or two upon occasion. I saw more than one clip showing the crowds gathering around this-or-that watering hole in Sturgis. In sharp contrast was the Budweiser tent, which stood nearly empty.

In sharp contrast to this are the success of those businesses that profess traditional values. Perhaps the best-known of these include Hobby Lobby, Marriot and Chick-Fil-A, though there are many others. Most striking among these successes, at least in my opinion, is that both Hobby Lobby and Chick-Fil-A achieve their success by being open to the public only six days per week.

None of this is a “one cause fits all” phenomenon and of course there are other issues that play into it as well. But the TRENDS are undeniable. Trying to change the traditional social status quo, when the attempts are being made by business and especially when the bottom line is dependent on catering to the public, has consequences. And all too often those consequences are not what those companies thought they would be. People express their displeasure with their pocketbooks as well as in other ways.
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This has everything to do with Disney+ streaming. All streamers are losing money, sans Netflix. Which is why there’s 2 strikes going on. I was at Epcot 3 weeks ago and Animal Kingdom last week. PACKED ( this is the slow time?) ! Not to mention Mickey’s not so scary Halloween nights is sold out every night. Parks are doing just fine.
That is what you call anecdotal. Here are the facts.

What's behind the summer slump at Disney World and Universal Orlando | CNN Business
Disney World's crowds are thinning. Growing competition — and cost — may be to blame. - CBS News.

Of course there is speculation for the reasons and people will spin it to fit their narrative but their aggressive radical social policies surely did not help.
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Old 08-27-2023, 06:30 AM
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Disney lost her crown and it is doubtful she will ever get it back. Many kids don’t even know who Mickey Mouse is. The latest generation barely recognizes her. Kids have more variety now; the entertainment exclusive is gone for good.

On top of all this entertainment is taking the corner off its precipice, traveling downhill because of the internet age, pirating and streaming.

Adios, Mickey!
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Old 08-27-2023, 07:32 AM
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Disney lost her crown and it is doubtful she will ever get it back. Many kids don’t even know who Mickey Mouse is. The latest generation barely recognizes her. Kids have more variety now; the entertainment exclusive is gone for good.

On top of all this entertainment is taking the corner off its precipice, traveling downhill because of the internet age, pirating and streaming.

Adios, Mickey!
My grandkids do not know who Mickey Mouse is but they love the movies Frozen, Little Mermaid, and Toy Story.
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My grandkids do not know who Mickey Mouse is but they love the movies Frozen, Little Mermaid, and Toy Story.

Do they buy mouse "ears" when they visit?
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