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Caymus 04-09-2025 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2422741)
Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
or to guarantee that imports from the US are very low?

Aces4 04-09-2025 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2422741)
Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
That's called a tariff- barrier.

Bill14564 04-09-2025 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2422716)
They only created the need for it, right?
Creating the need for it would be considered starting it, no? What was the need, what was the problem and how did raising tariffs solve it?

Bill14564 04-09-2025 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2422741)
Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
There are those pesky facts again.

Stu from NYC 04-09-2025 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2422740)
Proves the point that you can manipulate numbers. Like in a dip,stocks go from 3000 to 1500 and the dip is 50% but when stock goes up from 1500 to 3000 the rise will need to be 100%
The problem with you logic is if you stay the course in the long run you are the winner.

daniel200 04-09-2025 06:37 PM
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The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?

44Apple 04-09-2025 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2422784)
The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?
Dear Leader?

dewilson58 04-09-2025 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel200 (Post 2422784)
The tariff reversal was announced at 1:18 today. However at 1:05, there was a very large uptick in s&p500 volume. Someone had inside information. Who do you think it was?
No tariff reversal.

Bill14564 04-09-2025 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2422790)
No tariff reversal.
Fooled a whole lot of people then.

Aces4 04-09-2025 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2422771)
Creating the need for it would be considered starting it, no? What was the need, what was the problem and how did raising tariffs solve it?
It's fairly simple and I'll spell it out for those that don't understand. The process is used to create equal trade with other countries whether it be their tariffs, VATS, excise fees, or non-tariff barriers. Obviously, it will fluctuate depending on the country with whom they are speaking. As reiterated today, this is to make all countries successful.. including us.

dewilson58 04-09-2025 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2422791)
Fooled a whole lot of people then.
Pause................not Reversal.................BIG difference.

Aces4 04-09-2025 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2422741)
Those rates only kicked in if imports exceeded a certain amount.
To date, those amounts have not been exceeded, and no US exporter has paid them.
Thank you for pointing out the problem with restrictive trade. No one wants to export past a certain number if they are then penalized for any additional product imported to the said country.

Bill14564 04-09-2025 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2422792)
It's fairly simple and I'll spell it out for those that don't understand. The process is used to create equal trade with other countries whether it be their tariffs, VATS, excise fees, or non-tariff barriers. Obviously, it will fluctuate depending on the country with whom they are speaking. As reiterated today, this is to make all countries successful.. including us.
Equal trade requires equal resources, equal need, and equal ability to pay. When you are the largest economy in the world there isn’t much that will be equal. Unfortunately, that requires a level of understanding that is beyond “fairly simple”.

Bill14564 04-09-2025 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2422793)
Pause................not Reversal.................BIG difference.
Nope. Binary condition - there are or there are not. Yesterday there were, today there are not. Tomorrow… ?

EDIT: Sure, there is a promise of more ignorance to come, but that is a given.

Aces4 04-09-2025 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2422795)
Equal trade requires equal resources, equal need, and equal ability to pay. When you are the largest economy in the world there isn’t much that will be equal. Unfortunately, that requires a level of understanding that is beyond “fairly simple”.
And that's why each case will be negotiated separately for those who have not been paying attention.


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