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Not sure if this is the right place for this, wife and I have a trust set up by an attorney in CA. Is this valid in FL?

Do we need to see a FL attorney?
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Googled it and according to legalzoom living trusts are good in any state.

Any comments to the contrary?
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Yes, it's a good idea to have it reviewed by a lawyer here. There are laws that vary from state to state. You don't need a whole new one, but you might have to edit a little.
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Is My Will Still Valid If I Move to Another State?

According to this Elder Law site it would be a good idea to have a Florida attorney look it over. We relocated from NH and had McLin Burnsed redo our wills and trusts. I can tell you that Florida is a lot more generous when you die than the State of NH.
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Your trust should always be reviewed every few years as things in life change. We did have to have our powers of attorney updated once we moved to Florida full time. Also medical POA.
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I agree with above, especially the medical POA, but up North this was 2 or 3 pages, down here i think it is 19 pages! We used Amy Pittman, very pleased with her work. Also, when you meet with her or another attorney double check any other financial documents and wills as there maybe conflicts.
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Thanks for the advice.
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Just remember that a trust is not like a will. A will needs to be executed by a Florida court, but a trust is executed by the trustee and doesn't need to go through a probate court. So, it is less important to be concerned about Florida law. Not to say that a Florida lawyer would not be helpful.

I am the trustee for a trust that was prepared in Virginia. Several lawyers in Florida have recommended that I keep the trust "situs" in Virginia and use a Virginia lawyer for advice. They will not provide any advice about a non-Florida trust. If you use a Florida lawyer, they will probably require that you prepare a new trust which will probably cost more than the one you already have and be more complicated.

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Not sure if this is the right place for this, wife and I have a trust set up by an attorney in CA. Is this valid in FL?

Do we need to see a FL attorney?
Thanks-you've moved a will rewrite a bit further up on our priority list.
RE: your trust question.
Do you have your current Villages home in your will-I know we do not.
Your TRUST, they are usually set up for tax reasons. Not sure how the new tax bill effects your or our tax issues.

As suggested by others-probably a good idea to have it reviewed.

PERSONAL EXPERIENCE-my parents passed away several years ago. Unfortunately, at that time there was a lot of tension between my sister and myself. My parents did not have much but, each item they had of any value was stated who it goes to. As stated we already had issues between my sister and myself. I was so happy that my parents split their estate evenly and in a moment of grief
with rattled nerves there was no disputes.
As to updating your will-my niece who was not born at the time the will was last updated UNFAIRLY was left nothing.
I have an inherited IRA complete with the forced withdrawals. A gift that keeps on giving. I. as forced to, take the minimum withdrawal and give it to my niece.
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Yes, it's a good idea to have it reviewed by a lawyer here. There are laws that vary from state to state. You don't need a whole new one, but you might have to edit a little.
Three lawyers in Florida have told me that they will not review or provide any advice for a trust prepared in another state. The only thing they will do is to prepare a new trust. They advised me to consult with a lawyer in the state where the trust was prepared.
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Might as well weigh in here... CA is a community property state whereas Florida is not. This may or may not affect your situation.

While there is a rule of thumb that a trust is honored in another state if it is valid in it's state of origin, this is not always the case.

Also is it a revocable living trust or an irrevocable trust? It is probably the former as most folks in CA use them to avoid probate costs, especially on real estate.

As mentioned hereinabove trusts and wills are different animals.

IMHO don't be pennywise and pound foolish. If you plan to permanently relocate to Florida find a reputable and capable local estate/probate lawyer.
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I agree with above, especially the medical POA, but up North this was 2 or 3 pages, down here i think it is 19 pages! We used Amy Pittman, very pleased with her work. Also, when you meet with her or another attorney double check any other financial documents and wills as there maybe conflicts.
Would also recommend Amy Pittman.
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Thanks-you've moved a will rewrite a bit further up on our priority list.
RE: your trust question.
Do you have your current Villages home in your will-I know we do not.
Your TRUST, they are usually set up for tax reasons. Not sure how the new tax bill effects your or our tax issues.

As suggested by others-probably a good idea to have it reviewed.

PERSONAL EXPERIENCE-my parents passed away several years ago. Unfortunately, at that time there was a lot of tension between my sister and myself. My parents did not have much but, each item they had of any value was stated who it goes to. As stated we already had issues between my sister and myself. I was so happy that my parents split their estate evenly and in a moment of grief
with rattled nerves there was no disputes.
As to updating your will-my niece who was not born at the time the will was last updated UNFAIRLY was left nothing.
I have an inherited IRA complete with the forced withdrawals. A gift that keeps on giving. I. as forced to, take the minimum withdrawal and give it to my niece.
What is the reason to leave a big asset like a house out of a will?
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Two references for Amy Pitman. I will contact her and post her response.
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Put everything in your revocable trusts and you won't have to worry about a will. You still have access to your assets but they don't have to go through probate as when you die whomever you assigned as successor trustee handles your trust for you.
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