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Kenswing 03-09-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1725728)
Did you buy today ? I'm a chicken - I'm holding out for two consecutive significant up days. How do feel about big oil ? Will some of the giants continue to pay a dividend ?

Got Exxon at $43. That makes the dividend around 7%. They have a great dividend history but you never know. Will continue to accumulate on the way down.

rustyp 03-09-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1725731)
Got Exxon at $43. That makes the dividend around 7%. They have a great dividend history but you never know. Will continue to accumulate on the way down.

Yes - I'm looking at exactly that - Exxon. I forecast only the strongest of big oil surrives out of this romp. I would be leery of the cruise industry. I foresee a lot of regulation coming there. However airlines are a necessity and maybe worth a serious consideration.

tophcfa 03-09-2020 10:52 PM

This falling knife is very sharp. Don't try to catch it on the way down, wait until it hits the floor, and don't try to pick it up if it bounces off the floor, wait for it to firmly settle down on the floor.

MorTech 03-09-2020 10:55 PM

There is no way Our Rulers/Owners are going to allow oil under $50 for very long.

I figure free market discovery price for oil is about $30.

Energy is huge to USA financials...Putin knows this.

For all those who think the national debt is a huge problem, how much is the yearly nut to service the $23T debt?

MorTech 03-09-2020 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1725673)
More like the Saudis called Russia's bluff then went all in.. lol

Check this out...Our Owners must be fuming at smug Putin :)

Russia swiftly reacts to bloodbath in markets, says it’s ready for $25 oil — RT Business News

Jack58033 03-10-2020 12:27 AM

Pandemic crashing. Oil prices crashing and the Saudis playing hardball. Credit markets shaking . Banks shaking with huge loans outstanding to the oil company's. Recession? You betcha. We are far from the bottom. Inexperienced leadership at the top. This will be a rough ride. Are your Annuities safe? Maybe. Sleep tight.

dewilson58 03-10-2020 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack58033 (Post 1725820)
Pandemic crashing. Oil prices crashing and the Saudis playing hardball. Credit markets shaking . Banks shaking with huge loans outstanding to the oil company's. Recession? You betcha. We are far from the bottom. Inexperienced leadership at the top. This will be a rough ride. Are your Annuities safe? Maybe. Sleep tight.




Not quite. :ohdear:




Market is up.




:ho:

Kenswing 03-10-2020 10:14 AM

I'm guessing there's a lot of short covering going on. Let's see if we can actually hold onto a gain today..

dewilson58 03-10-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1725977)
I'm guessing there's a lot of short covering going on. Let's see if we can actually hold onto a gain today..




She held.


I would love to see the market get back "to investing". Forget day-traders, Forget computer-trading. You purchase a stock and you must hold it a minimum of 30 days. I know, I know.................it sounds like a devil talking.


Thanks for a good day. :ho:

MorTech 03-10-2020 04:30 PM

Big bailouts coming for the "connected" 10%...At your grandchildren's expense...WooHoo! It's good to be a counterfeiting Central Banker Gangster...Great work if you can get it.

rustyp 03-10-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1726066)
Big bailouts coming for the "connected" 10%...At your grandchildren's expense...WooHoo! It's good to be a counterfeiting Central Banker Gangster...Great work if you can get it.

Or maybe at the expense of your social security. Payroll tax holiday ?

CoachKandSportsguy 03-10-2020 05:47 PM

Today was in line with the last 9 same scenarios, bear market may be over
 
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one can look at the chart and extrapolate that this time is similar to all the others, and that the market will be up at some time in the future. At some point the flu will pass, and maybe the oil price will return, however, those are not an immediate given. However, after waiting 100% in bonds in my 401K for over 18 months, I put 20% to work at 20 % down Monday close. I will put another 20-30 % to work at 30% down. But being patient is always a good idea.

The future is always uncertain, sometimes more uncertain than at other times.

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Bay Kid 03-11-2020 07:00 AM

What goes up will come down. What comes down will go up. The guess is when?

dewilson58 03-11-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1726173)
What goes up will come down. What comes down will go up. The guess is when?




Yep. And most market timers miss. :faint:

Chi-Town 03-11-2020 10:08 AM

Up a thousand, down a thousand. Sound familiar? But doubt if it has the staying power of 2008.


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