Not yet, we have decided to buy a Tesla, and are waiting a little to see how the market is going to react when more of the "stuff" going on right now gets over with - or maybe I should say, "if it gets over with". We don't like taking funds out of the market when it is so turbulent

But, for me the reason is more the FSD which is now in beta, I don't want to have to drive any more... It would probably be safer for others if I was not driving LOL.

Apparently, Tesla's are a bit too pricey for some posters taste, so here is a tasty rumor - $25,000 model in 2 years possibly with FSD,

I Am Super Excited for the Full Self Driving Tesla Model $25K | CleanTechnica

I will turn this around on you. Why are US automakers projecting that they will only be at 50% electrics in 2030? Why doesn’t Tesla just build a bunch of new battery factories right now since they are battery constrained?

That's cheap for any type of new car. But His Holiness Elon Musk can sell them below cost, because he is raking it in with "carbon credits."

The carbon credit scheme is government manipulation of the market; they are picking winners and losers. Since Teslas are power by fossil fuels that are converted into electricity, they get to extort manufacturers of cars that run directly on fossil fuels.

Tesla Earned $428 Million With Carbon Credits In Q2 2020: Why That's Bad

I like your thinking and agree with you.

[QUOTE=spd2918;2013724][QUOTE=GrumpyOldMan;2013631]Apparently, Tesla's are a bit too pricey for some posters taste, so here is a tasty rumor - $25,000 model in 2 years possibly with FSD,
Yes, the model 2 will be coming out soon but the styling is not like the current Tesla's. Looks more like an SUV. I'm sure the battery range won't be exciting, either. Doesn't matter, I'm looking forward to seeing them on the road. PS - a motorcycle is in the works, too.

I have an ev.

FSD is not Level 5 autonomous driving. I believe it will be 5 years or more before Tesla has Level 5 autonomous driving.

American business is SLOW. I could ask why is ULA (Boeing) still not able to launch a manned spaceship to the space station after 10 years and being many billions over budget? SpaceX with only a small injection (loan/contracts) of government money is regularly launching now.

When Japan took over auto manufacturing quality and production from US car makers using Statical Process Control, it took the US makers decades to recover.

Sadly US business is conservative and slow. Personally, I attribute it to the stock market talking heads. If a public company doesn't meet some bean counters projections it can literally cost them billions. So, they developed a very conservative outlook on business. Ever notice all the US car makers' models look so much alike? Can't take a chance on something innovative - remember Edisel?

Musk is leading the way constantly doing things everyone says can't be done. Lately, Tesla has begun using/testing a unibody press, one of the largest in the world. Reducing part count, cost, and build time compared to traditional manufacturing processes.

Tesla IS building new battery factories all over the world, including Germany, China, Texas, etc. More to come. He is building them as fast as he can finance them.


The most likely reason I can see for a potential slow down in the transition to EVs is probably political. If things go south and the world experiences a depression, well, that could slow down even Musk.

Yet you haven't bought one... Too pricey for you?

Yes, exactly my point. Tesla and others have been or are planning to ramp up capacity probably as quickly as possible. Yet, some manufacturers are still only projecting 50% electric vehicles in 10 years. Currently, Model Y delivery is for estimated for April 2022.

I think you mean, Model Y is sold out until 2022. They are currently selling Model Y's, just production can not yet keep up. I saw something about bringing some of the Model Y production from China back to the states to help.

I also saw that Tesla is currently (September) the top selling car in England. And approaching that is other European countries.

Semantics. If you order a Model Y today you will get delivery in April 2022. I am not in a particular hurry. I won’t place an order until I can guarantee an Austin build with 4680s.

Since we had been discussing how soon EVs will be all you can buy new, I assumed you meant it was not in production yet.

My bad, I know better than to make assumptions, but knowing better doesn't seem to ever stop me :)

Ice cars catch on fire too

https://twitter.com/brandonurbz_/sta...965345793?s=21

I like the idea of the new batteries also. Can you believe that one of the selling points of the Cybertruck is that it's bulletproof? Gimme a break. I really didn't mind waiting as long as it takes to get it correct with everything else but TARGET PRACTICE at a truck is a given that someone will be a victim. I don't want it to be me, I'm a big target.

Recalculating my decision. I still really want to do it but I'm reasonable to. I just upgraded my order to the 3 motor model. Damn!

500 mile coverage batteries which will get us to one set of kids in the Carolinas and with one more charge up to the other kids in Jersey.

What to do, What to do. I've got plenty of time to think it over.

Hey you have to let us know when you get it I’m dying to see it in person!! Maybe we can have a Tesla party ( excluding all the Tesla/ EV haters on this forum )

Does anyone own a new Model S Plaid here?? I’d love to see what 0-60 under 2 seconds feels like !!

I’m almost certain that is the model my son has. Plaid S. Unbelievable!!!! It was mine to use while he was at work for a six week visit. I gave him the Credit Card (Key) back pretty quickly mainly because I love speed and was an aggressive driver and the car was over my head. I’m a reformed speeder. I didn’t want to mess up his ride. It is not easy to have a car like that and not rip it.

The acceleration is hard to explain. It glued you in the seat and makes you laugh, unfortunately in my case a man has to know his limitations and this car is over mine. Very expensive, I think it was $110 - $120K all in.