Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 2433151)

Geez, leave the poor guy alone. He's out of office, has prostate cancer, and his memory is shot.

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2433155)

I'm happy with United Healthcare they have always taken care of my needs.
But at the end of the day all these healthcare plans are profit making companies, that is their main goal.
If you live or die is not their main concern.
The alternative is universal healthcare, which also seems to have issues.
Maybe the answer is to form a panel to study a way to deliver a profit free care system that is also problem free.

Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2433167)

The free market is the answer. There is no car insurance crisis. Why? Because the beneficiary pays the premiums in a free market. If the government and employers paid for our groceries, we would have a similar food crisis. Get them out of the picture and let Amazon, or Tesla, or such get involved. Healthcare would become inexpensive and convenient.

Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2433167)

The free market is the answer. There is no car insurance crisis. Why? Because the beneficiary pays the premiums in a free market. If the government and employers paid for our groceries, we would have a similar food crisis. Get them out of the picture and let Amazon, or Tesla, or such get involved. Healthcare would become inexpensive and convenient.

Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2433167)

The free market is the answer. There is no car insurance crisis. Why? Because the beneficiary pays the premiums in a free market. If the government and employers paid for our groceries, we would have a similar food crisis. Get them out of the picture and let Amazon, or Tesla, or such get involved. Healthcare would become inexpensive and convenient.

Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2433167)

The free market is the answer. There is no car insurance crisis. Why? Because the beneficiary pays the premiums in a free market. If the government and employers paid for our groceries, we would have a similar food crisis. Get them out of the picture and let Amazon, or Tesla, or such get involved. Healthcare would become inexpensive and convenient.

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433030)

We shall see, the DOJ has dropped many cases recently which seem like a slam dunk against grifting behaviors, due to changes in administration beliefs and goals. . . so what had been dropped in the past may be reopened under different administration viewpoints. .

doesn't mean that the behaviors didn't happen. Just means that for some reason unknown at this time, that the DOJ declined to pursue prosecution.

CMS rates hospitals for readmissions for a prior procedure, rates nursing homes, skilled care facilities, for management of their population, ie sending residents out to hospitals unnecessarily, and rates insurance companies supervising their patients with case management. Insurance case managers keeping nursing / skilled care facility from sending back their patients would help with insurance reviews and therefore insurance reimbursement rates.

"follow the money" applies in this case. . . not statements defending allegations with facts subject to conditional outcomes. . .

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2433184)

This explosive rhetoric has an effect on crazy types out there. Better be very careful....


"Wikipedia":

Brian Robert Thompson[4][5] (July 10, 1974 – December 4, 2024), the CEO of the American health insurance company UnitedHealthcare, was shot and killed in Midtown Manhattan, New York City, on December 4, 2024. The shooting occurred early in the morning outside an entrance to the New York Hilton Midtown.[6] The suspect, initially described as a white man wearing a mask, fled the scene.[1] The words "delay," "deny," and "depose" were inscribed on the cartridge cases used during the shooting. Thompson had previously faced criticism for the company's rejection of insurance claims, and his family reported that he had received death threats.

On December 9, 2024, authorities arrested 26-year-old Luigi Mangione in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and charged him in a Manhattan court with Thompson's killing.[7][8][9] Authorities say that when Mangione was apprehended, he was carrying a 3D-printed pistol and a 3D-printed suppressor consistent with those used in the attack; a short handwritten letter criticizing the American healthcare system; an American passport; and multiple fraudulent IDs, including one with the same name used to check into a hostel on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.[10][11][12] Authorities also said his fingerprints matched the partial smudged prints that investigators found near the New York shooting scene.[13] Police believe that he was inspired by "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski's manifesto Industrial Society and Its Future (1995) and motivated by his own personal views on US health insurance.[14][15]

Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 2433151)

Geez, leave the poor guy alone. He's out of office, has prostate cancer, and his memory is shot.

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2433212)

My brother-in-law is a veteran, I am also I have chosen to use United Health Care, he on the other hand decided to use the VA for a large portion of his medical care and he claims they're excellent. Now I do not believe he would lie to me. So, if he is correct, make improvements to the VA and see if they can design a similar program for the general public.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2433191)

You're kidding, right? You want the stock market, which has to crank out a big profit constantly to pay it's something for nothing stockholders, to provide your healthcare coverage? What are some people thinking? Talk about a diminishing level of care and services with high, high premiums...

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2433204)

You do understand that is what we have now.

Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2433167)

The free market is the answer. There is no car insurance crisis. Why? Because the beneficiary pays the premiums in a free market. If the government and employers paid for our groceries, we would have a similar food crisis. Get them out of the picture and let Amazon, or Tesla, or such get involved. Healthcare would become inexpensive and convenient.