[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I am sincerely trying to be helpful. I believe that "losing" is spelled with one O. Loosing with two Os has something to do with arrows sent from bows. Sincerely and with respect.....me

Thank you for the comment. I was not being argumentative, although I know I come across that way.

And thank you for the spelling correction - LOL - seriously, my spelling sucks big time! The only way I will ever learn if if people politely let me know when I screw up - so, thanks, and I do mean it.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I am sincerely trying to be helpful. I believe that "losing" is spelled with one O. Loosing with two Os has something to do with arrows sent from bows. Sincerely and with respect.....me

Oh no GrumpyOldMan gets a C on his post for miss-spelling. Where are the moderators when you need them most. Then this should drive you NUTS
“ Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Could you read it? The truth is pretty much every fluent English-speaker can read and understand it.”

[biker1]

The units are fires per mile driven; a rate.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Mmmm, maybe rhey aren’t driven that many miles.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

I hardly think I insulted you, but as far as fraud goes,

Promoting, selling and taking deposits for multiple years on products which don't exist, and haven't existed is fraud.

Booking warranty and repair expenses to good will is fraudulent accounting

Seeing cars is not the fraud, convincing NY to build him a factory which he never used is fraud.

etc. . .

Technically FRAUD requires intent, I think.

[Topspinmo]

Does laps around the earth count?

[Topspinmo]

So compared to new or relative new vehicles versus all the new and uses internal combusted engine drive which out numbers them by 100s of millions.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaCat

Agreed!

How about 47,000 satellites polluting space so he can get richer? Long after that maniac is dead, 47,000 pieces of space junk will still either be there, or falling to earth.

He’s a menace… with a lot of money. Shaking my head…

The tens of thousands (I read up to 42,000) Musk satellites are intended to provide a way for the citizens of countries whose governments have tried to censor/control internet usage, to be able to bypass the government censorship. It's at least one step to maintaining a free, open and accessible internet globally, which should help combat fake news, propaganda and information deprivation aimed at controlling populations. I ask, what in the heck is wrong with that?

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

I do not own a Tesla, I'm satisficed with my internet, I have no intentions of traveling in space or going through one of his tunnels. As crazy as this guys is, he is delivering on things that other people just imagine.

As crazy as this guys is, he is delivering on things that other people just imagine.

You have hit the nail squarely on the head. Screaming about "space pollution," is pretty darned humorous and is a real stretch in trying to find a reason to hate Musk. Satellites have been falling for decades and they almost always completely burn up before making it to ground, if they don't go into one of the oceans that cover 70% of the planet instead.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Well, and I believe Musk has plans in place to begin cleaning up debris in space.

He was told you can't make a practical affordable EV car - he did.
He was told you can's reuse rocket boosters - he did
He was told you can't make a Satellite Internet service - he did
He was told you can't make house solar tiles practical - he did
He was told you can't drill tunnels faster - he did
He was told you can't use batteries for storing solar and wind power cost effectively - he did
He was told you can't create a Full Self Driving without LIDAR - he did
He was told you can't colonize Mars - he is working on it.

The list just keeps growing.

People should be VERY careful where they get their news.

Boeing financed a website to spread misinformation on SpaceX - because Boeing can't deliver and is in jeopardy of loosing they're decades old funding and more funding.

Various ICE engine companies were involved in paying a person in Australia to spread misinformation about Teslas.

There is a large group of Short'ers that spears negative news in an attempt to bring down Tesla's stock so they can profit.

It goes on and one.

I am amazed at many of the same people that constantly dis china and the whole loosing jobs and factories to China, then turn around and bash one of the most innovative and creative Americans.

Rooting for innovative genius' who go out and prove naysayers wrong, used to be something that most Americans held in high esteem and admired (Ford/Edison/Tesla/Jobs/Harley-Davidson/Etc.,Etc.). What has happened to us?

[Chi-Town]

Tesla is building a humanoid robot that will be ready next year. It's about time

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Tesla is building a humanoid robot that will be ready next year. It's about time

I saw that, can't wait. He said (paraphrase) we have a lot of expertise on robots - the Tesla is basically a robot with wheels - LOL.

He did say next year, I expect knowing his track record, he tends to be a little optimistic - maybe in two years. But, I will be in line for that!

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

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It's personal then?

After reading the comments, yep, sure seems personal.

[TNGary]

Photo of new Giga Factory in TX. Just completed Shanghai and Berlin factories, Same playbook as Amazon, years of growth, spending much $ and questionable viability but became viable. . something to consider.

Tesla Gigafactory Texas is taking shape in new drone flyover video - Electrek

[Quixote]

I'm not interested in personalities, in petty resentments and jealousies, in hostility by ICE vehicle owners, in adolescent type bickering, in space junk, or any of that stuff. What is important to us is not this nonsense but rather that my other half was driving our Tesla on 466 when a landscaping truck whose driver simply didn't see the vehicle and pulled out right in front of our Tesla. Before even able to move foot all the way from power pedal to brake, the Tesla stopped virtually on a dime. By itself. A lot of heart racing, but not a scratch. That kind of safety is what counts to us, and yes, we feel that level of concern for the driver and passengers that goes into a Tesla makes it worth paying for and owning.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Quixote

I'm not interested in personalities, in petty resentments and jealousies, in hostility by ICE vehicle owners, in adolescent type bickering, in space junk, or any of that stuff. What is important to us is not this nonsense but rather that my other half was driving our Tesla on 466 when a landscaping truck whose driver simply didn't see the vehicle and pulled out right in front of our Tesla. Before even able to move foot all the way from power pedal to brake, the Tesla stopped virtually on a dime. By itself. A lot of heart racing, but not a scratch. That kind of safety is what counts to us, and yes, we feel that level of concern for the driver and passengers that goes into a Tesla makes it worth paying for and owning.

Agreed, and this is a comment repeated over and over by owners.