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GrumpyOldMan 08-21-2021 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad-tv (Post 1992355)
Have been using auto pilot for about a year now and if your going to be driving on auto pilot and not pay attention your a fool. And most of if not all the accidents that have happened on auto pilot ( not sure if that was confirmed if they were using auto pilot) were from drivers who weren’t paying attention. This is still in beta mode and a extremely cool feature but to completely trust a computer to drive and not pay attention your crazy. The most amazing car I have ever driven look forward to driving it every time. Will never buy another ICE vehicle because of Tesla/ Musk

Never bet against Elon he always proves all the doubters wrong. And anyone who shorts Tesla has lost big time.$$$$
Everyone calls him a billionaire but all his money is in stock?
He sold all his homes and lives in a small 40k pre fab shoebox on site. Pretty humble in my opinion. Compare that to Besos and Gates they live like kings.
This guy sleeps on the floors of his factories. He sold PayPal and took all that money to start Tesla almost went bankrupt and never gave up!! His company ( not just a auto company btw) is now worth more than all the car companies in the world combined.
He’s wacky and posts stupid things every so often on social media but give credit where it’s due he’s done amazing things has forever changed our world! And don’t forget he’s not perfect no one is!
All true, and you left out any money he does make he puts back into SpaceX. He is committed (putting his money where his mouth is) to establishing a colony on Mars. So, any profits from the other companies that are his, get funneled into SpaceX.

Escape Artist 08-21-2021 12:16 PM
I like Musk because he told California and its governor where to stick it and took his manufacturing business elsewhere. As for being "odd" we have seen the rise of the tech genius/mogul over the past 30 or 40 years and they are ALL strange and I suspect on the autism spectrum, Bill Gates included. He's the original poster boy.

Brad-tv 08-21-2021 05:58 PM
https://twitter.com/thestreet/status...101566469?s=21

GrumpyOldMan 08-21-2021 10:54 PM
Article on the safety of Tesla's and their auto-pilot.

A Funny Thing About That IEEE Report On Tesla's Autopilot System | CleanTechnica

CaliforniaCat 08-22-2021 05:11 AM
Why do we need a colony on Mars?

tvbound 08-22-2021 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ROCKMUP (Post 1992360)
Pretty pathetic how nasty people can be.
When people consistently keep losing money shorting a stock, it can make them grumpy. What's that saying again - on the definition of "insanity?"

GrumpyOldMan 08-22-2021 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaCat (Post 1992549)
Why do we need a colony on Mars?
Why did we need a new route to China, why did we need a new continent.

Humans have a need to explore and expand. Is the main reason. Musk feels, and I don't disagree, that having a viable self sufficient colony on Mars give the human race a chance to survive if the Earth gets hit by a comet or Climate change is worse than expected, or COVID-24 is 100% deadly. Lots of ways life on our seriously over populated planet can go sideways. We currently use MORE resources by June every year than the earth can replenish in a Earth, and of course one of Musks favorites is the potential for an AI project to get out of hand and kill of mankind.

And WE, you and me, probably do not need a colony on Mars. Luckily, unlike ULA (Boeing) SpaceX is not asking you and me to provide funding. Mush is providing most of the funding by selling products and services - SpaceX, Tesla, Neural Link, Star Link, Boring Company, Batteries, Solar Panels, (soon to come) Tesla Humanoid Robots. etc. etc. etc. He funnels most of the profits from those all get funneled into SpaceX. Most of those involve developing technology that will be needed in a Mars colony, so it can be developed and debugged before going there.

So, The reason Musk wants to go there (he says) is that HE WANTS to save the human race. He tends to think big - LOL.

GrumpyOldMan 08-22-2021 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1992575)
When people consistently keep losing money shorting a stock, it can make them grumpy. What's that saying again - on the definition of "insanity?"
Well, and some understand if they can in some way help the stock to take a dive, they can get rich - so, there is certainly a factor to motivate helping the negative fake news to spread.

I am NOT saying everyone here is doing that, but there are certainly some around the world that would profit by Musk failing, and numerous cases have been found and made public where they were making up fake news and spreading it.

BostonRich 08-22-2021 07:54 AM
I am sure that people who lived at the time of Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstien, Leonardo Da Vinci and any and all alternate thinking "geniuses" considered them weird and unlikeable. You need history to fairly judge Musk and he will go down as one of the great thinkers of modern times.

Could any of us accomplish what Elon Musk has accomplished? I highly doubt it. Actually the answer is NO!

DAVES 08-22-2021 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1991170)
Wow...Elon Musk should just plead the 5th and stop incriminating himself.

MUSK ON TRIAL (SOLAR CITY BAILOUT) - 12711VCS Day One, Part One - YouTube

Watch TSLA.
I have the same view about most things. I have to know someone to HATE them. When, you are changing the world as Musk is you will find people biting at you heels from behind you.

Truth, REALITY, no one cares or needs to care what I think. There is an advantage to that.

GrumpyOldMan 08-22-2021 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1992671)
Truth, REALITY, no one cares or needs to care what I think. There is an advantage to that.
I do care what you and anyone else thinks, as long as they can express their opinion without needless vitriol.

I read all your posts.

coralway 08-22-2021 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1991382)
I can, but I assume your scale is only money. Sad.



That's why folks invest - to make $$. Personally, I couldn't care less what product a company makes, who the CEO is, where they are located, or anything else. If they are financially viable and successful, I'll take a look.

My biggest investment has been AAPL. Maybe not as glamorous as TSLA, but I got in in 1986, with a measly 200 shares. And have held ever since. They are the reason I was able to retire early. Many folks will be able to retire because of their TSLA shares. Good for them.

I admire EM, but would not own any shares or buy or sell any puts or calls - much to volatile for my tastes. More power to EM.

Kenswing 11-28-2021 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2034754)
Fraud? Absurd.

Compared to a certain Orange person, and his grifter family, he is an astute, very successful businessman. But, I would never buy one of his products.
You pick a three month old thread to post something political. Lol

coralway 11-28-2021 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2034758)
You pick a three month old thread to post something political. Lol




And you reply -

go back to sleep

Babubhat 11-28-2021 06:47 PM
General accusations with no support are as worthless as the post

Topspinmo 11-28-2021 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaCat (Post 1991701)
Elon Musk is a criminal. He’s polluting space with 47,000 pieces of future space junk that cannot be retrieved. He’s a space polluter and someone should stop him. Not to mention he manipulates the Crypto Currency market. The SEC should go after him for his comments and antics that affect Tesla stock. I don’t know why they let this maniac do whatever he wants.

So, how many has nasa, Russia, China put up there. Like 30 times more. SpaceX will be the leading space technology and run the rest out of business unless you county the back door jobs given to Boeing the greasy way.

Crypto currency’s are next Ponzi scheme. They should be illegal due to no tracking of currency.

Topspinmo 11-28-2021 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2034754)
Fraud? Absurd.

Compared to a certain Orange person, and his grifter family, he is an astute, very successful businessman. But, I would never buy one of his products.
Would this be consider political??? I got banned for less.:coolsmiley:

TCNY61 11-30-2021 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1992138)
Agreed, and this is a comment repeated over and over by owners.
Just don't drive anywhere near this rock in Yosemite!

Yosemite Multiple Tesla Model X Autopilot Wrecks

Topspinmo 11-30-2021 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaCat (Post 1992549)
Why do we need a colony on Mars?
Cause earth is slowly being used up an overpopulated. Imo in future earth will be penal colony. :faint:

Michael G. 11-30-2021 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaCat (Post 1991701)
Elon Musk is a criminal. He’s polluting space with 47,000 pieces of future space junk that cannot be retrieved. He’s a space polluter and someone should stop him.
If not him, someone else would.
The county throws money at him so he pollutes.

Wait until there's a disaster in outer space when this junk hits a space ship, or
starts falling to earth someday.

davem4616 11-30-2021 06:23 PM
he's got enough money to buy the best lawyers

if OJ can get off this fellow shouldn't have much difficulty

JMintzer 11-30-2021 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2035425)
If not him, someone else would.
The county throws money at him so he pollutes.

Wait until there's a disaster in outer space when this junk hits a space ship, or
starts falling to earth someday.
As opposed to the "space junk" that's been doing just that for decades?


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