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Old 08-19-2021, 06:04 AM
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Wow...Elon Musk should just plead the 5th and stop incriminating himself.

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Old 08-19-2021, 07:02 AM
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I hope so, anyone who believes anything out of his mouth is an idiot, and he is a total narcissisic sociopath, with so much money that he can buy off, intimidate or bully plaintiff issues. . . .

Tesla car battery likely caused devastating East Bay house fire, investigators say - ABC7 San Francisco

yesterday, tesla drove into a pile of kids on the sidewalk in the UK
never tesla's fault. . .

however, em has enough money to manipulate the stock through options by exploiting the market maker's delta hedging strategy, such that yesterday, $17M of Sept call options, 700 strike were bought, which is not mom and pop and not most hedge or mutual funds. . . preying on a gamma squeeze next week. . .

don't play the stock either way unless very sophisticated, I have lost over 20K shorting that POS stonk
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:12 AM
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Electrics actually have less fires per mile driven than gas cars but the fires, when they do occur, are more difficult to put out. GM has a recall on their Bolt electric.

The Tesla accidents that have occurred with Autopilot engaged have been due to the driver failing to pay attention. Autopilot requires that you keep your hands on the wheel and pay attention. It is not fully autonomous driving, it is not promoted as fully autonomous driving, and drivers must still be ready to take control of the car at any time. Accidents have occurred when drivers misused the system. That is not Tesla's fault.

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I hope so, anyone who believes anything out of his mouth is an idiot, and he is a total narcissisic sociopath, with so much money that he can buy off, intimidate or bully plaintiff issues. . . .

Tesla car battery likely caused devastating East Bay house fire, investigators say - ABC7 San Francisco

yesterday, tesla drove into a pile of kids on the sidewalk in the UK
never tesla's fault. . .


however, em has enough money to manipulate the stock through options by exploiting the market maker's delta hedging strategy, such that yesterday, $17M of Sept call options, 700 strike were bought, which is not mom and pop and not most hedge or mutual funds. . . preying on a gamma squeeze next week. . .

don't play the stock either way unless very sophisticated, I have lost over 20K shorting that POS stonk

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I hope so, anyone who believes anything out of his mouth is an idiot, and he is a total narcissisic sociopath, with so much money that he can buy off, intimidate or bully plaintiff issues. . . .

Tesla car battery likely caused devastating East Bay house fire, investigators say - ABC7 San Francisco

yesterday, tesla drove into a pile of kids on the sidewalk in the UK
never tesla's fault. . .

however, em has enough money to manipulate the stock through options by exploiting the market maker's delta hedging strategy, such that yesterday, $17M of Sept call options, 700 strike were bought, which is not mom and pop and not most hedge or mutual funds. . . preying on a gamma squeeze next week. . .

don't play the stock either way unless very sophisticated, I have lost over 20K shorting that POS stonk
He is very hard to like to be sure, but I have no problem he is wealthy. AND he is quite a bit out there...by his own admission he is autistic, but that is not a choice. I find him not at likeable...........but what are we to do with people who are born "different" and brilliant and odd. This really is a problem, because every last man jack of us has an odd bit or two.
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I hope so, anyone who believes anything out of his mouth is an idiot, and he is a total narcissisic sociopath, with so much money that he can buy off, intimidate or bully plaintiff issues. . . .

Tesla car battery likely caused devastating East Bay house fire, investigators say - ABC7 San Francisco

yesterday, tesla drove into a pile of kids on the sidewalk in the UK
never tesla's fault. . .

however, em has enough money to manipulate the stock through options by exploiting the market maker's delta hedging strategy, such that yesterday, $17M of Sept call options, 700 strike were bought, which is not mom and pop and not most hedge or mutual funds. . . preying on a gamma squeeze next week. . .

don't play the stock either way unless very sophisticated, I have lost over 20K shorting that POS stonk


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Not a fan.

But financially successful people rarely color within the lines.
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a lifetime of fraud?
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Looks like no one on here likes Musk or Tesla…. On real opinion here. Who can say that they have achieved more than him?
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Looks like no one on here likes Musk or Tesla…. On real opinion here. Who can say that they have achieved more than him?
I can, but I assume your scale is only money. Sad.
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well I don't think he's a fraud. he seems more like a genius. John DeLorean was a fraud. let's keep this in perspective
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Maybe a Martian Court will find him guilty.
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well I don't think he's a fraud. he seems more like a genius. John DeLorean was a fraud. let's keep this in perspective
um, not into finance at all eh? not into historical fact checking as well, eh?

I have locations which I can pull sample after sample of his crap, and if you want to read the legal briefs after the currently in progress trial, you will see he is full of truth twisting lies. . .

but continue to believe, its your perogative
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With all the mess that’s going on, why concentrate on Elon People are frustrated about everything, let’s take a deep breath and be thankful, make a long list of all your thankful for.
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:15 PM
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1. Present your evidence that he's lived a "lifetime of fraud" . I see Tesla cars everywhere now. Hardly seems like a fraud, the way the DeLorean was (go read the history - JDL raided the funds provided to him by investors and the British Govt and only managed to ship a fraction (less than 7,000) of the promised vehicles, which were replete with quality problems.)
2. If you don't like his products, don't by them

Pretty simple without resorting to insults isn't it?
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:36 PM
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I hardly think I insulted you, but as far as fraud goes,

Promoting, selling and taking deposits for multiple years on products which don't exist, and haven't existed is fraud.

Booking warranty and repair expenses to good will is fraudulent accounting

Seeing cars is not the fraud, convincing NY to build him a factory which he never used is fraud.

etc. . .
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